Eugene,<br> Actually I think now is the perfect time to start thinking about the inclusion of pay supported applications. When dealing with a distribution platform there are many things to consider including:<br><ul><li>licensing : including subscriptions, affliate programs, system constaints etc<br>
</li><li>individual repositories based on user purchases - so you need to consider authentication etc</li><li>large data formats - for example some game applications have 1Gb+ downloads - would this be better via bittorrent vs other means</li>
<li>Looking at non app items such as ebooks, movies, music etc.<br></li></ul>I am sure I missed somethings regarding ther things that consideration. I have some in my personal research on this - but not on hand.<br><br>I also disagree that the market is infinately small, there are a lot of Linux commercial applications available however they are hard to find because there is no central place to market them. In just about every genre of applications there is a commercial application; and I would also look at the success of the Android/mobile platform - the market wasn't there until it was created. We shouldn't also limit it to desktop applications - the server/web space is an area that I think could also benefit.<br>
<br>I also think the game market on a Linux platform could be boosted dramtically if there was an easy way to install and use high quality programs. Games is one of the last hold-outs for Linux success on the desktop. Game manufactures really don't have a good way to get the games into players hands under Linux and a system like this could get the ball rolling.<br>
<br>I also think the use of in-app payments and donations is one area that could really be potentially a big deal. I think consideration of this is required as things like SDK's and business functionality needs to be looked at now and not added later.<br>
<br>Sorry I don't mean to sound abrupt :) I am very excited by this prospect, and would love to see it come through as a reality!<br><br>Best Regards<br>Andrew Mee<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 February 2011 05:13, Eugene Trounev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eugene.trounev@gmail.com" target="_blank">eugene.trounev@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Well, we actually talked about this briefly at bretzen, but agreed that this was not a priority right now. The paid application market under linux is infinitely small, + there is no point even talking about this before we have a sensible distribution platform for it.<div>
So, plan minimum - develop a cross distro, cross architecture, easy to use distribution platform.</div><div>Plan maximum - start thinking about what to sell, and how.<br><div><br clear="all"><p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">
Best Regards,</p><p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;"><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;"></p><p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">
Eugene Trounev</p><p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">[it-s]</p><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/2/14 Jos Poortvliet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jospoortvliet@gmail.com" target="_blank">jospoortvliet@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div>On 2011-01-27 Andrew wrote:<br>
</div><div>> Hello all,<br>
> thanks Jos for the introduction. What I was discussing with Jos was that<br>
> about 12 months ago I was investigating the possibility of a cross-distro<br>
> app store for the commercial side of Linux apps. Some of the things that<br>
> came up was the payment and licensing handling and in-app payment work.<br>
> Unfortunately the lack of resources at the time prevented me from promoting<br>
> this idea further.<br>
><br>
> When discussing the common app installer with Jos I mentioned that the<br>
> commercial applications (and other digital deliverables) had unfortunately<br>
> not been well promoted, especially in the gaming and commercial development<br>
> tools; let alone a micro-payment donation system etc.<br>
><br>
> I have been working in payment systems (for all different payment<br>
> types), micro-payment, affiliate and mass payout systems for the last 4<br>
> years. I have been involved at all levels including bank gateways, fraud<br>
> controls and working with PCI compliance .<br>
><br>
> I am still reviewing some of the information that Jos has gave me and I am<br>
> looking forward to seeing project going.<br>
> Looking forward to hearing more and joining the list.<br>
<br>
</div>Laddies and gents, I haven't seen any replies to this - has there been any<br>
thought on payment systems, on commercial apps etc? Does this have to happen<br>
with the Appstream team? Other?<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
> Regards<br>
> Andrew Mee<br>
><br>
> On 27 January 2011 14:43, Jos Poortvliet <<a href="mailto:jospoortvliet@gmail.com" target="_blank">jospoortvliet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On 2011-01-27 Andrew wrote:<br>
> > > Jos,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > it was really good to talk to you last night regarding the common<br>
> > > app<br>
> > ><br>
> > > installer work. I am very interested in seeing what I can bring to the<br>
> > > table with regards to this project.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > First off you now have my contact details and perhaps we can discuss<br>
> > > all this further over a coffee before you go.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > In the meantime I'm going to do some catch-up on what you mentioning to<br>
> ><br>
> > me!<br>
> ><br>
> > Awesome. Let me introduce you to Frank Karlitschek & the bretzn team!<br>
> ><br>
> > Guys, I spoke last night wit Andrew Mee who mentioned he has once been<br>
> > thinking about and working a bit on a payment system for open source app<br>
> > store<br>
> > stuff. He's knowledgable in this area and might be able to help you guys<br>
> > out<br>
> > in this rather complicated area! Subscribe him to the list and be sure to<br>
> > suck<br>
> > him in ;-)<br>
> ><br>
> > Also be sure to keep Vincent in the loop, as well as the other distro<br>
> > people!<br>
> ><br>
> > > :)<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks Again,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Andrew Mee<br>
> > > +61401665068<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Regards<br><br>Andrew<br>