Place for suggestions

[Johnny Jazeix]

Hi,

Le lun. 2 mars 2020 à 23:50, Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, showing just the letter pressed and playing the corresponding sound
> is something doable.
> Though we would need to think more about what to do for other keys... or
> maybe just limit to letter/number keys... ( as for some keys it may be
> hard to do anything, considering there are always some desktop-based
> shortcuts that can not be blocked/replaced by the application.. and Esc
> is used to exit activities... )
>
> We will think of what would be the best design.
> Like I said in my comment: "we could probably do something in that idea...".
>
> What we said was not possible is what you suggested first: "When the kid
> press A, the computer do the sound of Ambulance or show a animal with A
> letter... That is very different from what you suggest now ;)
>
> Anyway, thanks for the suggestion!
> We will try to add such very-very simple activities for the youngers.
>
> Best,
> Timo.
>
>
> Le 02/03/2020 à 22:59, Christian Schmitz a écrit :
> > Dear:
> >       The required resources depend on the way as you design the activity. Tones
> > and colors have no difficults on internationalization.
> >       A big letter on screen with the speech of name of letter reuse all audios
> > already loaded on activity ABCDOF. (maybe will be need add the audios for
> > ESC, F1 or those keys can play a monotonal melody).

I would need more info to have a better understanding. Is it:
* The same as "falling letters" but in real easy mode: one letter at a
time, no timer and some sound if any other key is pressed?
* Or no keyboard input at all, we "just" display the letters + play
the corresponding sound?

> > Both are ZERO skill activites and both are possible.
> >       I have on my hand a simple toy that must have less than 1Mb of rom, and do
> > that. My dougther learn the letters when under 2 years with him.(now she have
> > 13).
> >       Please, apologyze to me for insist, is because i do not found the problem on
> > internationalization. I will stop here. I write here with the only hope to
> > help to the project.

No need to apologize, as said before, the aim is to discuss to provide
the best activities for children, so please continue the discussion
until we have an agreement on the activities :).
We have 2 basic constraints on activities:
* it can't be specific to any language/country (this is why we avoid
any driving learning as it changes depending on the country for
example)
* it has to work in any platform: desktop (so mouse + keyboard),
tablets/phones (so touchpad + a virtual keyboard)...

As said, the first activity is good like that, just a few tweaks to do
to be tablet compliant.

Johnny

> > Best Regards.
> > Christian
> >
> > On Monday 02 March 2020 12:34:56 Timothée Giet wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> As Johnny already answered below:
> >>
> >> -the first idea could be good, though it needs to be designed in a way
> >> that is also usable with touchscreens for android and such.
> >>
> >> -the second idea as-is doesn't sound good for us because of
> >> internationalization issues.
> >> Think about the combination of all different keyboard layouts + all the
> >> supported languages...
> >> It would be very difficult/impossible to match each key to first letter
> >> of something (or at least not possible without making that activity
> >> super-heavy, which we would rather avoid).
> >> Still we could probably do something in that idea but with "universal"
> >> events.
> >> (each key would trigger a specific thing, but not directly connected to
> >> the letter on that key).
> >>
> >> Timo.
> >>
> >> Le 02/03/2020 à 12:56, Johnny Jazeix a écrit :
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> this is the good place to ask. Once we have discussed, we can create a
> >>> task in phabricator (https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/142/).
> >>>
> >>> Le lun. 2 mars 2020 à 12:28, Christian Schmitz <list at schweb.com.ar> a
> > écrit :
> >>>> Hi everyone:
> >>>>         Sorry for use the mailing list to ask. I want to do a new
> >>>> activity suggestion, but i
> >>>> didnt find where post it. Where is the best place to do?
> >>>>
> >>>>         I have a 2 years kid, at this point he simple hit the keyboard
> >>>> and is unable to solve the most basic challenge, even the motricity
> >>>> didnt allow clean the screen with the mouse because he press the mouse
> >>>> keys and the block reappear on screen.
> >>>>
> >>>>         My proposal is 2 new activities with ZERO challenge:
> >>>> Activity 1 Mouse:
> >>>>         7 elements on screen (colors or animals). Every element will be
> >>>> activated with a mouse action.
> >>>>         For example if you move the mouse to the right a dog move the
> >>>> mouth and say DOG or WOW or a simple tone.    A cat for the left, etc
> >>>> etc. And 3 for the mouse buttons.
> >>>>         Not point a cursor over the cat or dog because 1 or 2 years cant
> >>>> do this, simply how is the mouse moving or keys hitting.
> >>>>         This allow interact with the computer to small kids because any
> >>>> move or anything get a computer reaction.
> >>> It needs to work on tablets or phone (where there are no mouse
> >>> buttons) so it may be reduced to only 5 actions (the four directions +
> >>> press any button/screen).
> >>> Except this, the activity could be interesting.
> >>>
> >>>> Activity 2 Keyboard:
> >>>>         When the kid press A, the computer do the sound of Ambulance or
> >>>> show a animal with A letter or any that you want. The function keys can
> >>>> do differents musics or sounds.
> >>>>         At this time the kid hit the keyboard with all hand, so him can
> >>>> get multiple sound, until start to understand wich sound to witch key
> >>>> will take a time.
> >>> This one is complicated due to internationalisation. A translated word
> >>> may not start with the same letter as the English one.
> >>>
> >>> Johnny
> >>>
> >>>> Best Regards
> >>>> Christian
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Be Free, Be Linux
> >
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