Place for suggestions

[Timothée Giet]

Le 03/03/2020 à 10:24, Johnny Jazeix a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Le lun. 2 mars 2020 à 23:50, Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, showing just the letter pressed and playing the corresponding sound
>> is something doable.
>> Though we would need to think more about what to do for other keys... or
>> maybe just limit to letter/number keys... ( as for some keys it may be
>> hard to do anything, considering there are always some desktop-based
>> shortcuts that can not be blocked/replaced by the application.. and Esc
>> is used to exit activities... )
>>
>> We will think of what would be the best design.
>> Like I said in my comment: "we could probably do something in that idea...".
>>
>> What we said was not possible is what you suggested first: "When the kid
>> press A, the computer do the sound of Ambulance or show a animal with A
>> letter... That is very different from what you suggest now ;)
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for the suggestion!
>> We will try to add such very-very simple activities for the youngers.
>>
>> Best,
>> Timo.
>>
>>
>> Le 02/03/2020 à 22:59, Christian Schmitz a écrit :
>>> Dear:
>>>       The required resources depend on the way as you design the activity. Tones
>>> and colors have no difficults on internationalization.
>>>       A big letter on screen with the speech of name of letter reuse all audios
>>> already loaded on activity ABCDOF. (maybe will be need add the audios for
>>> ESC, F1 or those keys can play a monotonal melody).
> I would need more info to have a better understanding. Is it:
> * The same as "falling letters" but in real easy mode: one letter at a
> time, no timer and some sound if any other key is pressed?
> * Or no keyboard input at all, we "just" display the letters + play
> the corresponding sound?

>From what I understood, it would as simple as pressing any letter/number
key would just display the corresponding character and sound, with no
specific goal (no need of levels or score at all).


>>> Both are ZERO skill activites and both are possible.
>>>       I have on my hand a simple toy that must have less than 1Mb of rom, and do
>>> that. My dougther learn the letters when under 2 years with him.(now she have
>>> 13).
>>>       Please, apologyze to me for insist, is because i do not found the problem on
>>> internationalization. I will stop here. I write here with the only hope to
>>> help to the project.
> No need to apologize, as said before, the aim is to discuss to provide
> the best activities for children, so please continue the discussion
> until we have an agreement on the activities :).
> We have 2 basic constraints on activities:
> * it can't be specific to any language/country (this is why we avoid
> any driving learning as it changes depending on the country for
> example)
> * it has to work in any platform: desktop (so mouse + keyboard),
> tablets/phones (so touchpad + a virtual keyboard)...
>
> As said, the first activity is good like that, just a few tweaks to do
> to be tablet compliant.
>
> Johnny
>
>>> Best Regards.
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> On Monday 02 March 2020 12:34:56 Timothée Giet wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As Johnny already answered below:
>>>>
>>>> -the first idea could be good, though it needs to be designed in a way
>>>> that is also usable with touchscreens for android and such.
>>>>
>>>> -the second idea as-is doesn't sound good for us because of
>>>> internationalization issues.
>>>> Think about the combination of all different keyboard layouts + all the
>>>> supported languages...
>>>> It would be very difficult/impossible to match each key to first letter
>>>> of something (or at least not possible without making that activity
>>>> super-heavy, which we would rather avoid).
>>>> Still we could probably do something in that idea but with "universal"
>>>> events.
>>>> (each key would trigger a specific thing, but not directly connected to
>>>> the letter on that key).
>>>>
>>>> Timo.
>>>>
>>>> Le 02/03/2020 à 12:56, Johnny Jazeix a écrit :
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> this is the good place to ask. Once we have discussed, we can create a
>>>>> task in phabricator (https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/142/).
>>>>>
>>>>> Le lun. 2 mars 2020 à 12:28, Christian Schmitz <list at schweb.com.ar> a
>>> écrit :
>>>>>> Hi everyone:
>>>>>>         Sorry for use the mailing list to ask. I want to do a new
>>>>>> activity suggestion, but i
>>>>>> didnt find where post it. Where is the best place to do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I have a 2 years kid, at this point he simple hit the keyboard
>>>>>> and is unable to solve the most basic challenge, even the motricity
>>>>>> didnt allow clean the screen with the mouse because he press the mouse
>>>>>> keys and the block reappear on screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         My proposal is 2 new activities with ZERO challenge:
>>>>>> Activity 1 Mouse:
>>>>>>         7 elements on screen (colors or animals). Every element will be
>>>>>> activated with a mouse action.
>>>>>>         For example if you move the mouse to the right a dog move the
>>>>>> mouth and say DOG or WOW or a simple tone.    A cat for the left, etc
>>>>>> etc. And 3 for the mouse buttons.
>>>>>>         Not point a cursor over the cat or dog because 1 or 2 years cant
>>>>>> do this, simply how is the mouse moving or keys hitting.
>>>>>>         This allow interact with the computer to small kids because any
>>>>>> move or anything get a computer reaction.
>>>>> It needs to work on tablets or phone (where there are no mouse
>>>>> buttons) so it may be reduced to only 5 actions (the four directions +
>>>>> press any button/screen).
>>>>> Except this, the activity could be interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Activity 2 Keyboard:
>>>>>>         When the kid press A, the computer do the sound of Ambulance or
>>>>>> show a animal with A letter or any that you want. The function keys can
>>>>>> do differents musics or sounds.
>>>>>>         At this time the kid hit the keyboard with all hand, so him can
>>>>>> get multiple sound, until start to understand wich sound to witch key
>>>>>> will take a time.
>>>>> This one is complicated due to internationalisation. A translated word
>>>>> may not start with the same letter as the English one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnny
>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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