GCompris activity proposal - Farming

[Edoarda Vallim]

Hello, I gave you access to the document, is it working now?
I will add the part about the plant growing faster and needing less water
if it's close to a tree, I liked it a lot!

Also I don't mind if you need to edit the svgs, but I'll do my best to
follow the guidelines as closely as possible.

I just don't understand why I should show a message when all trees are
chopped down, I would like to show the children the consequences
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On Fri, May 10, 2019, 16:55 Edoarda Vallim <edvallim at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, I gave you access to the document, is it working now?
> I will add the part about the plant growing faster and needing less water
> if it's close to a tree, I liked it a lot!
>
> Also I don't mind if you need to edit the svgs, but I'll do my best to
> follow the guidelines as closely as possible.
>
> Em qui, 9 de mai de 2019 às 11:25, Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Hi Karina,
>>
>> I didn't know that she was also a designer and that it was so important
>> to her, ok.
>>
>> In that case, sure she can try to follow the guidelines to create the
>> images.
>> Here they are:
>> https://gcompris.net/wiki/Artwork_guidelines
>>
>> But I can not promise I will not edit or change those after she complete
>> her project, before integrating the activity in a release.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Timothée
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 09/05/2019 à 16:11, Karina Mochetti a écrit :
>>
>> Hi, Timothée!
>>
>> I'm Karina, Edoarda's advisor! I saw that you prefer to do the svg by
>> yourself for the game. Is that really a necessity? Edoarda is also a
>> designer and she decided to do this project for her final graduation
>> project because she could also draw while programming. This is really
>> important to her! Do you think maybe you can pass this guidelines to her
>> and let her do the svg also?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Karina Mochetti
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:48 AM Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Thank you Edoarda for the updated proposal!
>>>
>>> I like this new idea as it is simple enough but still meaningful.
>>>
>>> As Johnny asked, can you give us access to add comments in the proposal
>>> document?
>>>
>>> I propose to extend it a bit with this rule:
>>> -if a plantable area is next to a tree, plants will require less manual
>>> watering and grow faster
>>>
>>> Does it sound good for you?
>>>
>>> Note that for the final graphics, we have now very specific design
>>> guidelines so
>>> I prefer to make all the svg images to keep consistent style and save
>>> time for everyone.
>>>
>>> You can draw quickly simple placeholder images similar to the mockup
>>> images,
>>> and I'll provide final images while you work on the code.
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothée
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 07/05/2019 à 14:11, Johnny Jazeix a écrit :
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for the proposal, can you give us access to add comments in
>>> > the document?
>>> >
>>> > A few notes:
>>> > * what is the target age?
>>> > * the activity should not be made addictive, so we should avoid too
>>> > much spots/space to plant trees.
>>> > * we should not allow to remove all trees, there should be a message
>>> > when the child tries to remove at the limit explaining why we can't
>>> > remove it
>>> > * same if we water too much a plant
>>> >
>>> > Johnny
>>> >
>>> > Le lun. 6 mai 2019 à 22:59, Edoarda Vallim <edvallim at gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>> >> Hello, I made some modifications on my proposal, the link is here:
>>> >>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5EkSlgzvERK-f4xlNLpUor6mUfWZkHpXtxqNMug_OA/edit?usp=sharing
>>> >> Please tell me what you think and if it's better.
>>> >> Thanks for your time!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 17:42 Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Yes the goal is not to make a complicated accurate simulation, we
>>> must find ways to simplify things to just introduce the ideas.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you want to select only part of the items I listed, please keep
>>> the Agroforestry part with the climate part. I'm sure we can find simple
>>> activity combining those two principles.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> And again, thanks for choosing to contribute to GCompris for your
>>> project!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Timothée - GCompris
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Le 08/04/2019 à 22:18, Edoarda Vallim a écrit :
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I like the ideas, however I think some of them are very complicated
>>> to put in a game for small children.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Maybe I can add something about the climate now and let the other
>>> ideia as future work?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm doing this as an undergraduate project (I'm a computer science
>>> student) and I'm adding my advisor to this conversation. :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 09:23 Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> Hi Edoarda,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thank you for the reply.
>>> >>>> About the ideas I have for this activity, I didn't think yet of a
>>> specific game-play, just about the concepts that should be included, like:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -learn to combine trees and shrubs with crops or livestock. Show
>>> how they interact with the soil at different levels and show the effects of
>>> good or bad associations.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -Include the effects on Biodiversity.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -Include natural elements (interactions with rain and sun), and
>>> have several levels representing the different climate conditions in the
>>> world (and different plants for each region).
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> There are more ideas that could be included, I just listed the most
>>> important ones in my opinion.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'm looking forward to your new proposal :)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Timothée
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Le 05/04/2019 à 17:00, Edoarda Vallim a écrit :
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Could you please tell me your ideas? I'm planning on studying the
>>> topics you sent me and create a new proposal soon.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Em qua, 3 de abr de 2019 às 16:34, Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>> >>>>> Le 03/04/2019 à 19:36, Edoarda Vallim a écrit :
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Hello, my name is Edoarda. I would like to make an activity for
>>> GCompris, if it's okay!
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> The link to the proposal is here: ttps://
>>> docs.google.com/document/d/1_s9d_O8rCQ3vxc8w9nIa5vXK-LkN4Wdv0LKH5W8Vs3U/edit?usp=sharing
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Thanks for your attention!
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Note: This activity is a personal project, I don't intend entering
>>> on SoC/GSoC with it. However, I would still like you to aprove it, since I
>>> would like to see it becoming a part of GCompris sometime.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Hello Edoarda,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Thanks for your interest to contribute a new activity in GCompris.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I've read your proposal. Actually we have been discussing recently
>>> about the idea to add an activity to teach about agriculture. But I would
>>> prefer to have something teaching the principles of permaculture and
>>> agroforestry (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture and
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agroforestry ), rather than something
>>> entirely based on manually adding fertilizers and water like in your
>>> proposal.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Can you please study a bit those principles and try to adapt your
>>> activity proposal to integrate those ideas? I have a global idea of what
>>> could be done on that topic, so ask me if you have any doubt.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Cheers,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Timothée
>>> >>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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