Completing Multiplication Activity

Thu Oct 12 13:51:23 UTC 2017

Ok,

if I'm not wrong, for now, we have the balloon and the memory activities
for multiplication. If it's not redundant with them and have a plus-value
(for a home use, not school only ;)), it's good for me to have it by
default (along with the 3 other operations?).

Johnny

2017-10-11 12:16 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Charruau <echarruau at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> For me yes, it brings really something more than the application we have
> with the balloon which is just a test activity but can not be used as an
> activity to learn multiplication.
> If we work with a grid like I suggest, pupils are able to see their
> progress within the multiplication table (they see what they answered right
> and what they still need to learn).
> Working with a grid allows also to answer in the order you want starting
> with the easiest one, and keeping the more difficult one for the end.
> Doing so you recall quickly what you know (memory training) and you can
> take more time for the one you know that you will have difficulties with.
> The application would also allow to cherry pick which multiplication you
> want to learn or train at a given time.
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
>
> 2017-10-11 8:38 GMT+02:00 JAZEIX Johnny <jazeix at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's a new activity.
>>
>> The question is more to know if the activity brings information and a
>> different plus-value than the current activities we have on multiplication
>> do. I guess they all aim to learn multiplication and don't differ too much
>> so it may be better to improve the current ones (if possible) instead of
>> adding new ones?
>>
>> I answered to Timothée at the far end of the mail.
>>
>>
>> On 10/10/17 23:35, Timothée Giet wrote:
>>
>> Probably yes, I would need to check closer, but I guess the idea for this
>> multiplication activity was somehow validated before the work started on
>> this branch... By the way, is it a port of an activity from the old
>> version, or a proposal for a new one?
>>
>> Timothée
>>
>> Le 10/10/2017 à 23:22, Emmanuel Charruau a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>> We could still create the multiplication activity  within our actual
>> gcompris?
>> I would love to have it for my kids.
>> Emmanuel
>>
>>
>> Le 10 oct. 2017 23:05, "Timothée Giet" <animtim at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Le 10/10/2017 à 21:27, JAZEIX Johnny a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 10/10/17 16:11, Emmanuel Charruau wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Amit,
>>>
>>> This is a really good news. I think this can be a very interesting
>>> activity, especially when it will be networked.
>>> First of all you will need to write a detailed description of how it
>>> will work, and do some mockups to show how you see it.
>>> I will sent you the description I am writing about the server, this can
>>> give you an idea of what I would like to read.
>>> You may think that the activity is already there and that writing a
>>> specification is not needed, but I would be glad if you do this part. We
>>> can then agree on what you will produce.
>>> I will follow you on this activity. This will be the first time I do
>>> some code review on a whole project, so be patient with me ;)
>>>
>>> Ok for the new activity name, menu at start, and configuration board.
>>>
>>> Good luck :)
>>>
>>> Emmanuel
>>>
>>> Le 10 oct. 2017 15:31, "Amit Sagtani" <asagtani06 at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’d like to complete the “Multiplication Activity” started in
>>> https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-qt/tree/sok_nitishc_
>>> multiplicationtables/  branch.
>>>
>>> Task link :-  https://phabricator.kde.org/T5469
>>>
>>> Reference :- https://mail.kde.org/pipermail
>>> /gcompris-devel/attachments/20160709/d4fa5990/attachment-0001.pdf
>>>
>>> As this activity can be used to learn vocable list, chemical
>>> abbreviations, multiplication tables, etc.
>>>
>>> I'd like to start activity from scratch and use some of the part from
>>> the current code. I’d also like to rename the activity to
>>> “question_and_answers”(can be changed).
>>>
>>> I have planned to implement a menu screen at start of activity as in
>>> lang and categorization activity, with options → multiplication, chemical
>>> abbreviations, etc. Player can select the one of the category and questions
>>> will be asked on that category.
>>>
>>>
>>> In which category do you put the activity? As it can be for every
>>> categories?
>>>
>>> A timer and score board will be implemented to measure the performance.
>>>
>>>
>>> The timer should be optional (and disabled by default).
>>>
>>> A configuration option will be provided by which teachers/parents can
>>> select which questions will be asked.
>>>
>>> Sample → https://pasteboard.co/GOhNzs8.png
>>>                 https://pasteboard.co/GOhNSJh.png
>>>
>>> I’ll be glad if anyone can send me more categories and material to add
>>> in the activity. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> For me this activity is more for school use than home use.
>>> On my side, for the home use, I don't see the interest of having a quiz
>>> with fixed questions (specially on specific themes that we would choose)
>>> without giving any help for the child or any material to learn. I think
>>> that for most of the themes/categories we could find, there would be a
>>> better way to show it to children.
>>>
>>> I would be more of having a main activity "questions_and_answers" but
>>> not present in the menu and having a way to add datasets (for now manually
>>> but later using the server) that would create the different activities (the
>>> ones really displayed in the menu).
>>>
>>> It needs to be thought (for the children/teachers use, the
>>> maintainability of the code/datasets, easiness to add/remove/update...)  if
>>> it would be easier to use to have multiple activities (one for each
>>> category) or one activity only with a menu (or a mix of both).
>>> For a school use, I would say activities may be better if we can filter
>>> the displayed activities to the children (so they don't have to first open
>>> the main activity and choose the good category).
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>> Suggestion regarding improving the activity presentation and concept are
>>> much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Amit Sagtani(IRC -> amit__)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I agree with Johnny, this sounds more like a tool for school teachers to
>>> make some tests, which does not fit really with the guidelines for gcompris
>>> activities, look at the "Core principles" part in
>>> http://gcompris.net/wiki/Ideas_for_activities
>>>
>>> However I agree this could eventually be a sort of test-activity
>>> template, "hidden" inside the server application. That would show-up in the
>>> activity list only if the server sent a specific dataset for it...
>>> something like that.
>>>
>> For me the activity code would still need to be in the gcompris
>> application. Then, the server would only be useful to create the datasets
>> and set it to gcompris (which would generate the needed activities by
>> itself). For now, we can create this part and create a small application to
>> create the datasets and store them directly where we want in the
>> computers/tablets. But there is a lot of thinking to do on how to do it
>> easier for the maintenance, the easiness of use, the readiness of the
>> files, the structure of the storing...
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> But then, maybe it's a bit too early to start coding for this, since that
>>> would probably require some of the missing parts of the server app, that
>>> should be done first.
>>>
>>> Timothée
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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