Completing Multiplication Activity

Wed Oct 11 10:16:16 UTC 2017

Hi,

For me yes, it brings really something more than the application we have
with the ballon which is just a test activity but can not be used as an
activity to learn multiplication.
If we work with a grid like I suggest, pupils are able to see their
progress within the multiplication table (they see what they answered right
and what they still need to learn).
Working with a grid allows also to answer in the order you want starting
with the easiest one, and keeping the more difficult one for the end.
Doing so you recall quickly what you know (memory training) and you can
take more time for the one you know that you will have difficulties with.
The application would also allow to cherry pick which multiplication you
want to learn or train at a given time.

Emmanuel

2017-10-11 8:38 GMT+02:00 JAZEIX Johnny <jazeix at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> It's a new activity.
>
> The question is more to know if the activity brings information and a
> different plus-value than the current activities we have on multiplication
> do. I guess they all aim to learn multiplication and don't differ too much
> so it may be better to improve the current ones (if possible) instead of
> adding new ones?
>
> I answered to Timothée at the far end of the mail.
>
>
> On 10/10/17 23:35, Timothée Giet wrote:
>
> Probably yes, I would need to check closer, but I guess the idea for this
> multiplication activity was somehow validated before the work started on
> this branch... By the way, is it a port of an activity from the old
> version, or a proposal for a new one?
>
> Timothée
>
> Le 10/10/2017 à 23:22, Emmanuel Charruau a écrit :
>
> Hi,
> We could still create the multiplication activity  within our actual
> gcompris?
> I would love to have it for my kids.
> Emmanuel
>
>
> Le 10 oct. 2017 23:05, "Timothée Giet" <animtim at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Le 10/10/2017 à 21:27, JAZEIX Johnny a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 10/10/17 16:11, Emmanuel Charruau wrote:
>>
>> Hi Amit,
>>
>> This is a really good news. I think this can be a very interesting
>> activity, especially when it will be networked.
>> First of all you will need to write a detailed description of how it will
>> work, and do some mockups to show how you see it.
>> I will sent you the description I am writing about the server, this can
>> give you an idea of what I would like to read.
>> You may think that the activity is already there and that writing a
>> specification is not needed, but I would be glad if you do this part. We
>> can then agree on what you will produce.
>> I will follow you on this activity. This will be the first time I do some
>> code review on a whole project, so be patient with me ;)
>>
>> Ok for the new activity name, menu at start, and configuration board.
>>
>> Good luck :)
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>> Le 10 oct. 2017 15:31, "Amit Sagtani" <asagtani06 at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d like to complete the “Multiplication Activity” started in
>> https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-qt/tree/sok_nitishc_
>> multiplicationtables/  branch.
>>
>> Task link :-  https://phabricator.kde.org/T5469
>>
>> Reference :- https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/gcompris-devel/attachments/20
>> 160709/d4fa5990/attachment-0001.pdf
>>
>> As this activity can be used to learn vocable list, chemical
>> abbreviations, multiplication tables, etc.
>>
>> I'd like to start activity from scratch and use some of the part from the
>> current code. I’d also like to rename the activity to
>> “question_and_answers”(can be changed).
>>
>> I have planned to implement a menu screen at start of activity as in lang
>> and categorization activity, with options → multiplication, chemical
>> abbreviations, etc. Player can select the one of the category and questions
>> will be asked on that category.
>>
>>
>> In which category do you put the activity? As it can be for every
>> categories?
>>
>> A timer and score board will be implemented to measure the performance.
>>
>>
>> The timer should be optional (and disabled by default).
>>
>> A configuration option will be provided by which teachers/parents can
>> select which questions will be asked.
>>
>> Sample → https://pasteboard.co/GOhNzs8.png
>>                 https://pasteboard.co/GOhNSJh.png
>>
>> I’ll be glad if anyone can send me more categories and material to add in
>> the activity. :)
>>
>>
>> For me this activity is more for school use than home use.
>> On my side, for the home use, I don't see the interest of having a quiz
>> with fixed questions (specially on specific themes that we would choose)
>> without giving any help for the child or any material to learn. I think
>> that for most of the themes/categories we could find, there would be a
>> better way to show it to children.
>>
>> I would be more of having a main activity "questions_and_answers" but not
>> present in the menu and having a way to add datasets (for now manually but
>> later using the server) that would create the different activities (the
>> ones really displayed in the menu).
>>
>> It needs to be thought (for the children/teachers use, the
>> maintainability of the code/datasets, easiness to add/remove/update...)  if
>> it would be easier to use to have multiple activities (one for each
>> category) or one activity only with a menu (or a mix of both).
>> For a school use, I would say activities may be better if we can filter
>> the displayed activities to the children (so they don't have to first open
>> the main activity and choose the good category).
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> Suggestion regarding improving the activity presentation and concept are
>> much appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amit Sagtani(IRC -> amit__)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree with Johnny, this sounds more like a tool for school teachers to
>> make some tests, which does not fit really with the guidelines for gcompris
>> activities, look at the "Core principles" part in
>> http://gcompris.net/wiki/Ideas_for_activities
>>
>> However I agree this could eventually be a sort of test-activity
>> template, "hidden" inside the server application. That would show-up in the
>> activity list only if the server sent a specific dataset for it...
>> something like that.
>>
> For me the activity code would still need to be in the gcompris
> application. Then, the server would only be useful to create the datasets
> and set it to gcompris (which would generate the needed activities by
> itself). For now, we can create this part and create a small application to
> create the datasets and store them directly where we want in the
> computers/tablets. But there is a lot of thinking to do on how to do it
> easier for the maintenance, the easiness of use, the readiness of the
> files, the structure of the storing...
>
> Johnny
>
> But then, maybe it's a bit too early to start coding for this, since that
>> would probably require some of the missing parts of the server app, that
>> should be done first.
>>
>> Timothée
>>
>
>
>
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