Completing Multiplication Activity

Wed Oct 11 06:38:30 UTC 2017

Hi,

It's a new activity.

The question is more to know if the activity brings information and a 
different plus-value than the current activities we have on 
multiplication do. I guess they all aim to learn multiplication and 
don't differ too much so it may be better to improve the current ones 
(if possible) instead of adding new ones?

I answered to Timothée at the far end of the mail.

On 10/10/17 23:35, Timothée Giet wrote:
> Probably yes, I would need to check closer, but I guess the idea for 
> this multiplication activity was somehow validated before the work 
> started on this branch... By the way, is it a port of an activity from 
> the old version, or a proposal for a new one?
>
> Timothée
>
> Le 10/10/2017 à 23:22, Emmanuel Charruau a écrit :
>> Hi,
>> We could still create the multiplication activity  within our actual 
>> gcompris?
>> I would love to have it for my kids.
>> Emmanuel
>>
>>
>> Le 10 oct. 2017 23:05, "Timothée Giet" <animtim at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:animtim at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>
>>     Le 10/10/2017 à 21:27, JAZEIX Johnny a écrit :
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     On 10/10/17 16:11, Emmanuel Charruau wrote:
>>>>     Hi Amit,
>>>>
>>>>     This is a really good news. I think this can be a very
>>>>     interesting activity, especially when it will be networked.
>>>>     First of all you will need to write a detailed description of
>>>>     how it will work, and do some mockups to show how you see it.
>>>>     I will sent you the description I am writing about the server,
>>>>     this can give you an idea of what I would like to read.
>>>>     You may think that the activity is already there and that
>>>>     writing a specification is not needed, but I would be glad if
>>>>     you do this part. We can then agree on what you will produce.
>>>>     I will follow you on this activity. This will be the first time
>>>>     I do some code review on a whole project, so be patient with me ;)
>>>>
>>>>     Ok for the new activity name, menu at start, and configuration
>>>>     board.
>>>>
>>>>     Good luck :)
>>>>
>>>>     Emmanuel
>>>>
>>>>     Le 10 oct. 2017 15:31, "Amit Sagtani" <asagtani06 at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:asagtani06 at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         I’d like to complete the “Multiplication Activity” started
>>>>         in
>>>>         https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-qt/tree/sok_nitishc_multiplicationtables/
>>>>         <https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-qt/tree/sok_nitishc_multiplicationtables/>
>>>>         branch.
>>>>
>>>>         Task link :- https://phabricator.kde.org/T5469
>>>>         <https://phabricator.kde.org/T5469>
>>>>
>>>>         Reference :-
>>>>         https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/gcompris-devel/attachments/20160709/d4fa5990/attachment-0001.pdf
>>>>         <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/gcompris-devel/attachments/20160709/d4fa5990/attachment-0001.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>         As this activity can be used to learn vocable list,
>>>>         chemical abbreviations, multiplication tables, etc.
>>>>
>>>>         I'd like to start activity from scratch and use some of the
>>>>         part from the current code. I’d also like to rename the
>>>>         activity to “question_and_answers”(can be changed).
>>>>
>>>>         I have planned to implement a menu screen at start of
>>>>         activity as in lang and categorization activity, with
>>>>         options → multiplication, chemical abbreviations, etc.
>>>>         Player can select the one of the category and questions
>>>>         will be asked on that category.
>>>>
>>>
>>>     In which category do you put the activity? As it can be for
>>>     every categories?
>>>
>>>>         A timer and score board will be implemented to measure the
>>>>         performance.
>>>>
>>>
>>>     The timer should be optional (and disabled by default).
>>>
>>>>         A configuration option will be provided by which
>>>>         teachers/parents can select which questions will be asked.
>>>>
>>>>         Sample → https://pasteboard.co/GOhNzs8.png
>>>>         <https://pasteboard.co/GOhNzs8.png>
>>>>         https://pasteboard.co/GOhNSJh.png
>>>>         <https://pasteboard.co/GOhNSJh.png>
>>>>
>>>>         I’ll be glad if anyone can send me more categories and
>>>>         material to add in the activity. :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>     For me this activity is more for school use than home use.
>>>     On my side, for the home use, I don't see the interest of having
>>>     a quiz with fixed questions (specially on specific themes that
>>>     we would choose) without giving any help for the child or any
>>>     material to learn. I think that for most of the
>>>     themes/categories we could find, there would be a better way to
>>>     show it to children.
>>>
>>>     I would be more of having a main activity
>>>     "questions_and_answers" but not present in the menu and having a
>>>     way to add datasets (for now manually but later using the
>>>     server) that would create the different activities (the ones
>>>     really displayed in the menu).
>>>
>>>     It needs to be thought (for the children/teachers use, the
>>>     maintainability of the code/datasets, easiness to
>>>     add/remove/update...)  if it would be easier to use to have
>>>     multiple activities (one for each category) or one activity only
>>>     with a menu (or a mix of both).
>>>     For a school use, I would say activities may be better if we can
>>>     filter the displayed activities to the children (so they don't
>>>     have to first open the main activity and choose the good category).
>>>
>>>     What do you think?
>>>
>>>     Johnny
>>>
>>>>         Suggestion regarding improving the activity presentation
>>>>         and concept are much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Regards,
>>>>         Amit Sagtani(IRC -> amit__)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I agree with Johnny, this sounds more like a tool for school
>>     teachers to make some tests, which does not fit really with the
>>     guidelines for gcompris activities, look at the "Core principles"
>>     part in http://gcompris.net/wiki/Ideas_for_activities
>>     <http://gcompris.net/wiki/Ideas_for_activities>
>>
>>     However I agree this could eventually be a sort of test-activity
>>     template, "hidden" inside the server application. That would
>>     show-up in the activity list only if the server sent a specific
>>     dataset for it... something like that.
>>
For me the activity code would still need to be in the gcompris 
application. Then, the server would only be useful to create the 
datasets and set it to gcompris (which would generate the needed 
activities by itself). For now, we can create this part and create a 
small application to create the datasets and store them directly where 
we want in the computers/tablets. But there is a lot of thinking to do 
on how to do it easier for the maintenance, the easiness of use, the 
readiness of the files, the structure of the storing...

Johnny
>>
>>     But then, maybe it's a bit too early to start coding for this,
>>     since that would probably require some of the missing parts of
>>     the server app, that should be done first.
>>
>>     Timothée
>>
>

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