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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
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      It's a new activity.<br>
      <br>
      The question is more to know if the activity brings information
      and a different plus-value than the current activities we have on
      multiplication do. I guess they all aim to learn multiplication
      and don't differ too much so it may be better to improve the
      current ones (if possible) instead of adding new ones?<br>
      <br>
      I answered to Timothée at the far end of the mail.<br>
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      On 10/10/17 23:35, Timothée Giet wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Probably yes, I would need to check
        closer, but I guess the idea for this multiplication activity
        was somehow validated before the work started on this branch...
        By the way, is it a port of an activity from the old version, or
        a proposal for a new one?<br>
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        Timothée<br>
        <br>
        Le 10/10/2017 à 23:22, Emmanuel Charruau a écrit :<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Hi,
          <div dir="auto">We could still create the multiplication
            activity  within our actual gcompris?</div>
          <div dir="auto">I would love to have it for my kids.</div>
          <div dir="auto">Emmanuel </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">Le 10 oct. 2017 23:05, "Timothée
            Giet" <<a href="mailto:animtim@gmail.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">animtim@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br
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                <div class="m_-7784059493802275150moz-cite-prefix">Le
                  10/10/2017 à 21:27, JAZEIX Johnny a écrit :<br>
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                  <div class="m_-7784059493802275150moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
                    <br>
                    On 10/10/17 16:11, Emmanuel Charruau wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Hi Amit,</div>
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                        <div>This is a really good news. I think this
                          can be a very interesting activity, especially
                          when it will be networked.</div>
                        <div>First of all you will need to write a
                          detailed description of how it will work, and
                          do some mockups to show how you see it.</div>
                        <div>I will sent you the description I am
                          writing about the server, this can give you an
                          idea of what I would like to read.<br>
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                        <div>You may think that the activity is already
                          there and that writing a specification is not
                          needed, but I would be glad if you do this
                          part. We can then agree on what you will
                          produce.</div>
                        <div>I will follow you on this activity. This
                          will be the first time I do some code review
                          on a whole project, so be patient with me ;)</div>
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                        <div>Ok for the new activity name, menu at
                          start, and configuration board.</div>
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                        <div>Good luck :)</div>
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                        <div>Emmanuel</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">Le 10 oct. 2017
                              15:31, "Amit Sagtani" <<a
                                href="mailto:asagtani06@gmail.com"
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                                    I’d like to complete the
                                    “Multiplication Activity” started
                                    in <a
href="https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-qt/tree/sok_nitishc_multiplicationtables/"
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                                    branch.<br>
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                                    Task link :-  <a
                                      href="https://phabricator.kde.org/T5469"
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                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://phabricator.kde.org/T5<wbr>469</a><br>
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                                    Reference :- <a
href="https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/gcompris-devel/attachments/20160709/d4fa5990/attachment-0001.pdf"
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                                    As this activity can be used to
                                    learn vocable list, chemical
                                    abbreviations, multiplication
                                    tables, etc.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I'd like to start activity from
                                    scratch and use some of the part
                                    from the current code. I’d also like
                                    to rename the activity to
                                    “question_and_answers”(can be
                                    changed).  <br>
                                    <br>
                                    I have planned to implement a menu
                                    screen at start of activity as in
                                    lang and categorization activity,
                                    with options → multiplication,
                                    chemical abbreviations, etc. Player
                                    can select the one of the category
                                    and questions will be asked on that
                                    category.</div>
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                  In which category do you put the activity? As it can
                  be for every categories?<br>
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                                  <div> A timer and score board will be
                                    implemented to measure the
                                    performance.<br>
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                  The timer should be optional (and disabled by
                  default).<br>
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                                  <div>A configuration option will be
                                    provided by which teachers/parents
                                    can select which questions will be
                                    asked.</div>
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                                  <div>Sample → <a
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                                    I’ll be glad if anyone can send me
                                    more categories and material to add
                                    in the activity. :)<br>
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                  For me this activity is more for school use than home
                  use.<br>
                  On my side, for the home use, I don't see the interest
                  of having a quiz with fixed questions (specially on
                  specific themes that we would choose) without giving
                  any help for the child or any material to learn. I
                  think that for most of the themes/categories we could
                  find, there would be a better way to show it to
                  children.<br>
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                  I would be more of having a main activity
                  "questions_and_answers" but not present in the menu
                  and having a way to add datasets (for now manually but
                  later using the server) that would create the
                  different activities (the ones really displayed in the
                  menu).<br>
                  <br>
                  It needs to be thought (for the children/teachers use,
                  the maintainability of the code/datasets, easiness to
                  add/remove/update...)  if it would be easier to use to
                  have multiple activities (one for each category) or
                  one activity only with a menu (or a mix of both).<br>
                  For a school use, I would say activities may be better
                  if we can filter the displayed activities to the
                  children (so they don't have to first open the main
                  activity and choose the good category).<br>
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                  What do you think?<br>
                  <br>
                  Johnny<br>
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                                  <div>Suggestion regarding improving
                                    the activity presentation and
                                    concept are much appreciated.<br>
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                                    Regards,<br>
                                    Amit Sagtani(IRC -> amit__)<br>
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                <p>Hi,</p>
                <p>I agree with Johnny, this sounds more like a tool for
                  school teachers to make some tests, which does not fit
                  really with the guidelines for gcompris activities,
                  look at the "Core principles" part in <a
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                    href="http://gcompris.net/wiki/Ideas_for_activities"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://gcompris.net/wiki/<wbr>Ideas_for_activities</a></p>
                <p>However I agree this could eventually be a sort of
                  test-activity template, "hidden" inside the server
                  application. That would show-up in the activity list
                  only if the server sent a specific dataset for it...
                  something like that.<br>
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    For me the activity code would still need to be in the gcompris
    application. Then, the server would only be useful to create the
    datasets and set it to gcompris (which would generate the needed
    activities by itself). For now, we can create this part and create a
    small application to create the datasets and store them directly
    where we want in the computers/tablets. But there is a lot of
    thinking to do on how to do it easier for the maintenance, the
    easiness of use, the readiness of the files, the structure of the
    storing...<br>
    <br>
    Johnny<br>
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                <p>But then, maybe it's a bit too early to start coding
                  for this, since that would probably require some of
                  the missing parts of the server app, that should be
                  done first. <br>
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                <p>Timothée<br>
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