GCompris-devel Digest, Vol 24, Issue 17

Emmanuel Charruau echarruau at gmail.com
Sun Oct 16 21:19:19 UTC 2016


Hi Nitish,

Only 36, we will not teach the table of 1 :)
As long as we have no network it would be nice to have 2 modes as
1- full tables 2*2 2*3 2*4 etc
2- independant multiplications 2*2 5*9 8*7

When we will have network teachers will be able to push the settings via
the admin panel.

Regards,

Emmanuel

2016-10-16 23:00 GMT+02:00 nitish chauhan <nitish.nc18 at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
> regarding SOK proposal :-
>
> 1.) Yes, we can have a activity for all 4 operators.
> 2.) For week 2-3 , yes I have added the demo screenshots.
> 3.) I have not checked the license yet. I think there will be no
> problem.But,still I will check it :)
> 4.) For week 7-8, 55 because :-
>
> for 1 :- 10 questions
> for 2 :- 9 questions
> for 3 :- 8 questions
> for 4 :- 7
> for 5   :- 6
> for 6   :- 5
> for 7  :- 4
> for 8  :- 3
> for 9  :- 2
> for 10 :: 1
>
> total :- 55 question
>
> 5.) Your Idea of two modes is quite nice, I will surely discuss this with
> Emmanuel.
>
>
> regards,
> Nitish
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 9:13 PM, <gcompris-devel-request at kde.org> wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>    1. SoK proposal (Divyam Madaan)
>>    2. Re: SoK Proposal (JAZEIX Johnny)
>>    3. Re: Season of KDE proposal review (JAZEIX Johnny)
>>    4. Re: SoK proposal (JAZEIX Johnny)
>>    5. Re: Season of KDE proposal review (Emmanuel Charruau)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 14:46:24 +0000
>> From: Divyam Madaan <divyam3897 at gmail.com>
>> To: gcompris-devel at kde.org
>> Subject: SoK proposal
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I am Divyam Madaan, a 2nd year student of UIET, PU,  Chandigarh, India. I
>> have been contributing to GCompris from quite a few months and I will try
>> my best to give my best to our awesome community :) I would be glad to get
>> reviews and suggestions on my proposal. Also feel free to test my activity
>> "Categorization" https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-qt/pull/161 and
>> give
>> your reviews.
>>
>> Link to my proposal:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NkYPVErDjJ1Ttn5TGCeWivQg
>> LLnxtXSKcf3y8r7VJCI/edit
>>
>> Thank you
>> Regards
>> Divyam Madaan
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:14:55 +0200
>> From: JAZEIX Johnny <jazeix at gmail.com>
>> To: gcompris-devel at kde.org
>> Subject: Re: SoK Proposal
>> Message-ID: <0be2a5c3-e169-911a-1148-a53b4537ec77 at gmail.com>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> for checkers, have you looked if there are existing AI that would be
>> simplier to integrate that recoding it?
>>
>> for place_your_satellite, there is already an existing branch, have you
>> checked if it can be continued from it? There was some algorithm already
>> developed in it.
>>
>> For me you won't have time to do everything but you can keep it like this.
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> On 10/15/16 00:49, Ütkarsh Tiwari wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >      Here is my proposal for the Season of KDE'16 programme. Please
>> > review it and share your suggestions.
>> >
>> > Link -
>> > https://github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/iamutkarshtiwari.github.
>> io/blob/master/SoK_proposal.md
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ütkarsh Tiwari
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:15:04 +0200
>> From: JAZEIX Johnny <jazeix at gmail.com>
>> To: gcompris-devel at kde.org
>> Subject: Re: Season of KDE proposal review
>> Message-ID: <ad7b34fc-8727-1cbb-9f77-c22f50ffe733 at gmail.com>
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>> Hi,
>>
>> is there an interest to have the activity for the 4 operators and not
>> only for the multiplication?
>>
>> For the discussions, don't limit it with the mentor but all the mailing
>> list. Even if you are only two discussing, it's good for everyone to
>> know the progress and what is planned so if anyone has comments, he can
>> share them.
>>
>> For week 2-3, is it the screenshot you added?
>>
>> For week 4-6, have you checked if the license of the code allow us to
>> use it?
>>
>> For week 7-8, why 55 (10+...+1)? If you store 3*7, you don't store 7*3?
>>
>> Documentation should be done while coding not at the end :).
>>
>> I'm not sure of the usefulness of the chrono, what do you do of the
>> result? Is it just informative for the session?
>>
>> I think the setting window should be part of the admin/server side and
>> the teacher will send the dataset he wants to the tablets. As it is not
>> yet developed, we can do it in the activity itself first but you have to
>> keep in mind that it could be moved so the code has to be done
>> "properly" so we can move it without having to change everything.
>>
>> For me, we can have two modes, the "school" mode where the dataset is
>> provided by the teacher (basically the settings window) and the "normal"
>> mode (not in a classroom, a child at home) where each level should
>> contain all the tables for one number (level 1 with the 10
>> multiplications for table of 1, level 2 for 2...).
>> If we do like this, in the "school" mode, we won't have the difficulty
>> to be sure that all the children have the same questions because the
>> dataset will be predefined on teacher side.
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> On 10/15/16 21:59, Emmanuel Charruau wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok understood.  But not sure you should put it as a step.
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 15 oct. 2016 21:46, "nitish chauhan" <nitish.nc18 at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:nitish.nc18 at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>> >
>> >     Hi,
>> >     Actually in this, I was planning to store all the questions in
>> >     form of ArrayList or Array. Just as we have stored coordinates of
>> >     pictures in drawnumber or Drawletters Activity.
>> >
>> >     In the setting window total no. of max questions will be
>> >     10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1 = 55
>> >     So, I was planning to store these questions in a
>> >     ArrayList(num1,num2) of size 55.
>> >     Also, between this time I will be having my EndSem exam, that's
>> >     why I have written 2 week for this task, because I will not be
>> >     able to devote much time between these week.
>> >
>> >     regards,
>> >     Nitish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Emmanuel Charruau
>> >     <echarruau at gmail.com <mailto:echarruau at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Hi Nitish,
>> >
>> >         I don't understand the following
>> >
>> >         .) Week 7-8 :-​ Will add DATASET for all the Questions , that
>> the
>> >         teacher wants the students to learn.
>> >         Dataset will be stored in JavaScript file for
>> >
>> >         Could you explain more in details ?
>> >
>> >         Thanks
>> >
>> >         Emmanuel
>> >
>> >
>> >         Le 15 oct. 2016 17:02, "nitish chauhan" <nitish.nc18 at gmail.com
>> >         <mailto:nitish.nc18 at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>> >
>> >             Hi,
>> >             myself Nitish Chauhan .Link to my SOK proposal :-
>> >             https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7HqST8hfydOYnRhSVN4Q
>> lJraVU
>> >             <https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7HqST8hfydOYnRhSVN4QlJr
>> aVU>
>> >
>> >
>> >             Will be happy to receive suggestions & reviews.
>> >
>> >             thanks & regards,
>> >
>> >             Nitish Chauhan
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:15:05 +0200
>> From: JAZEIX Johnny <jazeix at gmail.com>
>> To: gcompris-devel at kde.org
>> Subject: Re: SoK proposal
>> Message-ID: <01f5af85-10c8-b710-8f8e-a0b9a3cb2fa1 at gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> how do you plan to handle the translations for the words activity?
>>
>> What do you plan to do in the configuration for words that is different
>> from the configuration of images?
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>> On 10/16/16 16:46, Divyam Madaan wrote:
>> > Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> > I am Divyam Madaan, a 2nd year student of UIET, PU, Chandigarh, India.
>> > I have been contributing to GCompris from quite a few months and I
>> > will try my best to give my best to our awesome community :) I would
>> > be glad to get reviews and suggestions on my proposal. Also feel free
>> > to test my activity "Categorization"
>> > https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-qt/pull/161 and give your reviews.
>> >
>> > Link to my proposal:
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NkYPVErDjJ1Ttn5TGCeWivQg
>> LLnxtXSKcf3y8r7VJCI/edit
>> >
>> > Thank you
>> > Regards
>> > Divyam Madaan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:43:10 +0200
>> From: Emmanuel Charruau <echarruau at gmail.com>
>> To: JAZEIX Johnny <jazeix at gmail.com>
>> Cc: GCompris Devel <gcompris-devel at kde.org>
>> Subject: Re: Season of KDE proposal review
>> Message-ID:
>>         <CA+jbWcFLe6fT6qiG6-S94YUH7X8ipCDoaw5i_Ru84KmTJ9_7wQ at mail.
>> gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi Johhny,
>>
>> I can answer some of the questions.
>> In your email.
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>> 2016-10-16 17:15 GMT+02:00 JAZEIX Johnny <jazeix at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > is there an interest to have the activity for the 4 operators and not
>> only
>> > for the multiplication?
>> >
>>
>> You are totally right this is also interesting for addition and
>> soustractions.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > For the discussions, don't limit it with the mentor but all the mailing
>> > list. Even if you are only two discussing, it's good for everyone to
>> know
>> > the progress and what is planned so if anyone has comments, he can share
>> > them.
>> >
>> > For week 2-3, is it the screenshot you added?
>> >
>>
>>
>> > For week 4-6, have you checked if the license of the code allow us to
>> use
>> > it?
>> >
>>
>> > For week 7-8, why 55 (10+...+1)? If you store 3*7, you don't store 7*3?
>> >
>>
>> You don't store 7*3, this is one of the concept of the method to help
>> children to learn less. But this is a very interesting point, the activity
>> will have to ask 3*7 and 7*3 as we want to build automatisation here and
>> some of the children do not manage to see that 3*7 is = to 7*3.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Documentation should be done while coding not at the end :).
>> >
>> > I'm not sure of the usefulness of the chrono, what do you do of the
>> > result? Is it just informative for the session?
>> >
>>
>> I need a chrono. To be able to put pupils in competition. They really like
>> it, it is not only to create competition, but also to record progression.
>> I
>> write down the lime on a paper on the wall at the moment, and it really
>> motivates children to see that they are quicker and quicker.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I think the setting window should be part of the admin/server side and
>> the
>> > teacher will send the dataset he wants to the tablets. As it is not yet
>> > developed, we can do it in the activity itself first but you have to
>> keep
>> > in mind that it could be moved so the code has to be done "properly" so
>> we
>> > can move it without having to change everything.
>> >
>> > For me, we can have two modes, the "school" mode where the dataset is
>> > provided by the teacher (basically the settings window) and the "normal"
>> > mode (not in a classroom, a child at home) where each level should
>> contain
>> > all the tables for one number (level 1 with the 10 multiplications for
>> > table of 1, level 2 for 2...).
>> > If we do like this, in the "school" mode, we won't have the difficulty
>> to
>> > be sure that all the children have the same questions because the
>> dataset
>> > will be predefined on teacher side.
>> >
>>
>> As at the begining we will not have network, I still would like to have a
>> mode where children could set individual multiplications by hand. Iy will
>> work this way on the class. The teacher say, today we will add 2*3 and
>> 9*5,
>> go to settings display and click on them. This way all the children will
>> have the same questions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Johnny
>> >
>> > On 10/15/16 21:59, Emmanuel Charruau wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok understood.  But not sure you should put it as a step.
>> >
>> > Le 15 oct. 2016 21:46, "nitish chauhan" <nitish.nc18 at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Actually in this, I was planning to store all the questions in form of
>> >> ArrayList or Array. Just as we have stored coordinates of pictures in
>> >> drawnumber or Drawletters Activity.
>> >>
>> >> In the setting window total no. of max questions will be
>> >> 10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1 = 55
>> >> So, I was planning to store these questions in a ArrayList(num1,num2)
>> of
>> >> size 55.
>> >> Also, between this time I will be having my EndSem exam, that's why I
>> >> have written 2 week for this task, because I will not be able to devote
>> >> much time between these week.
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> Nitish
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Emmanuel Charruau <
>> echarruau at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Nitish,
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't understand the following
>> >>>
>> >>> .) Week 7-8 :-​ Will add DATASET for all the Questions , that the
>> >>> teacher wants the students to learn.
>> >>> Dataset will be stored in JavaScript file for
>> >>>
>> >>> Could you explain more in details ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Emmanuel
>> >>>
>> >>> Le 15 oct. 2016 17:02, "nitish chauhan" <nitish.nc18 at gmail.com> a
>> >>> écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>> myself Nitish Chauhan .Link to my SOK proposal :-
>> >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7HqST8hfydOYnRhSVN4QlJraVU
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Will be happy to receive suggestions & reviews.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> thanks & regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nitish Chauhan
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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