lang activity proposition

Sun Oct 2 16:00:43 UTC 2016

Hello,

In my opinion, the programming effort wouldn’t be huge: it would only suppose an extra button/control to open an existing clip or not. This extra button could be set to have a boolean behavior, i.e., to appear or not, depending if the clip exists (is defined) or not. The children would certainly love any extra information presented in a video clip, and the retention of that word would certainly be better.

Selecting/trimming 564 clips in national languages of the countries that don’t have a developed film industry – yes – that would certainly be a difficult task. However, I believe that the users from these countries would be more interested in the english-french-german-spanish lang activities than in their mother tongue lang activity. Besides, if the implementation would be “boolean”, there won’t be any frustration: a clip either exists and then there is an extra buton, or it doesn’t exist, in which case there isn’t any extra button.

About the age pool you have mentioned, it depends very much of the parent and the kid: some would prefer animations, others (like my son) would go for the Hollywood celebrities’ acting. This is why it would be very useful to give the user the possibility to customize the clip.

I am not informed about copyrights, but I know that a videoclip wouldn’t exceed more than 30 seconds, so couldn’t it be possible to just obtain the copyright for free, eventually mentioning in a watermark the title, the year and the owning company? I mean come on, there is a good chance that some of these movies would be bought in the future by some of the users, isn’t it?

All in all, I still believe that my idea is viable. I hope I’m not the only one... 

Horia

From: Emmanuel Charruau 
Sent: Sunday, 02 October, 2016 15:32
To: Horia PELLE ; GCompris Devel 
Subject: Re: lang activity proposition

Hi,

Is this not a too huge task? 
GCompris is translated in many languages, I doubt that this idea if implemented in english will be maintained in an other language.

Then we have to think that this is for children from 2 to 10, we would have to find the words in kids animation movies mostly, which norrows the source of vocables.

Then there is this copyright problem. If we solve it with links, who would do the tests to see if the links are still relevant?

This is a really huge quantity of situation to solve for only one activity :( and we have little ressources :(

But this is just my opinion :)

Emmanuel

2016-10-02 13:46 GMT+02:00 Horia PELLE <horricane at gmail.com>:

  I have a proposition for the lang activity. Although this activity is complex, very instructive and useful for vocabulary and writing purposes, I think it misses the liveliness of normal/everyday human language. The reason for this inert/still feature is the “atomization” of language in 564 small basic words. They can be learnt individually, but in this case they will only remain 564 pieces of a puzzle, with little value in real life communication. In my opinion, all these 564 small blocks of language would exponentially increase their learning value if they could be individually exemplified with everyday human speech.

  My idea is to place a button/link near each word image, and when it is clicked, it would open a popup window with an external video clip in which one (or more) persons say a phrase containing that word. Ideally, that phrase should be a clip from a good movie, so that pronunciation and emotion could reach maximum levels.
  In this way, the kids would learn two things: (1) to use all those 564 small pieces of language in real verbal communication and (2) the emotional intelligence of human speech, which is a big lack in most computer-assisted learning programs.

  I began to test short video clips a long time ago, on my little boy, and they all proved very successful (he easily remembers them, and he likes to recite/interprete these clips very often). I provided here four examples, for the words coin (youtu.be/fYJA26EjPEg), cute (youtu.be/CCOSZxD7gtI), dog (youtu.be/4PjHe2xPwa8) and huge (youtu.be/bfV3oGZozkY) → please take a look at them. Maybe they aren't the best examples or format, but you can feel the fluent everyday language and the broad spectrum of human emotions + body language of these short clips.

  Of course, the copyrights would certainly raise serious concerns, but if this problem could not be solved by GCompris team, then it could be easily overcome by the individual user. What I mean is that GCompris could provide by default a link of a clip without copyright problems, but the user could be given permission to customize the link and place his/her own link, with the preferred video clip.

  What do you think?
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