drkonqi and outdated software
Justin Zobel
justin at 1707.io
Wed Nov 19 12:42:40 GMT 2025
On 19/11/25 22:50, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Justin Zobel - 19.11.25, 12:59:31 CET:
>> On 19 November 2025 9:46:09 pm ACDT, Sune Vuorela<nospam at vuorela.dk>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-19, Justin Zobel<justin at 1707.io> wrote:
>>>> crashed but it is no longer supported and recommend updating if
>>>> possible.
>>> Please don't.
>> Care to elaborate on why? It would be the truth.
> It would send a certain message to distributions with longer term
> stability guarantees: We don't care if our software crashes in case we
> consider it outdated.
These distributions are the ones offering long term stability
guarantees, not us. Just to be clear.
> While I totally get that it would be unreasonable to expect any kind of
> support for bugs in the behavior of a program unless it makes the program
> in question unusable and of course implementing new features a crash is
> something different I think. If it only happens in certain rare
> circumstances and is difficult to fix it might still be unreasonable to
> expect any kind of support. But declining any support or help to
> distributions regarding *any* crashes in older software raises the
> question whether you like to support such traditional distributions at all
> anymore.
>
> I do not have an easy solution.
There is no easy solution, I agree.
>
> And maybe being clear about it at least is being clear about it.
>
> However I consider Plasma and KDE applications will continue to have a
> quite sizable number of running installations on "traditional"
> distributions like Debian or Devuan and whatever is the current set of
> corresponding RPM based distributions like Rocky Linux and Alma Linux as
> well as stable distributions with other packaging formats. Also you have
> FreeBSD. I believe distributions like KDE Neon or KDE Linux are not for
> everyone.
>
> I see a shared responsibility here. Not just upstream. But also not just
> the distributions. Cause just sending: "We don't care"?
Nobody has said we don't care. We're just saying, we only support x or y
releases.
We even have a bot to tell people that their Plasma version is
unsupported:
https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/bugzilla-bot/-/blob/master/data/eol.txt.erb?ref_type=heads
Plus one especially for Debian as apparently they don't want their users
reporting upstream:
https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/bugzilla-bot/-/blob/master/data/eol-debian.txt.erb?ref_type=heads
> Not sure whether
> that is a beneficial approach considering the total of the installation
> base of KDE based software.
>
> Best,
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