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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/11/25 22:50, Martin Steigerwald
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Greetings,
Justin Zobel - 19.11.25, 12:59:31 CET:
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">On 19 November 2025 9:46:09 pm ACDT, Sune Vuorela <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nospam@vuorela.dk"><nospam@vuorela.dk></a>
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">On 2025-11-19, Justin Zobel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:justin@1707.io"><justin@1707.io></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">crashed but it is no longer supported and recommend updating if
possible.
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Please don't.
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Care to elaborate on why? It would be the truth.
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It would send a certain message to distributions with longer term
stability guarantees: We don't care if our software crashes in case we
consider it outdated.</pre>
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These distributions are the ones offering long term stability
guarantees, not us. Just to be clear.
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While I totally get that it would be unreasonable to expect any kind of
support for bugs in the behavior of a program unless it makes the program
in question unusable and of course implementing new features a crash is
something different I think. If it only happens in certain rare
circumstances and is difficult to fix it might still be unreasonable to
expect any kind of support. But declining any support or help to
distributions regarding *any* crashes in older software raises the
question whether you like to support such traditional distributions at all
anymore.
I do not have an easy solution.</pre>
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There is no easy solution, I agree.
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And maybe being clear about it at least is being clear about it.
However I consider Plasma and KDE applications will continue to have a
quite sizable number of running installations on "traditional"
distributions like Debian or Devuan and whatever is the current set of
corresponding RPM based distributions like Rocky Linux and Alma Linux as
well as stable distributions with other packaging formats. Also you have
FreeBSD. I believe distributions like KDE Neon or KDE Linux are not for
everyone.
I see a shared responsibility here. Not just upstream. But also not just
the distributions. Cause just sending: "We don't care"?</pre>
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<p>Nobody has said we don't care. We're just saying, we only support
x or y releases.</p>
<p>We even have a bot to tell people that their Plasma version is
unsupported:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/bugzilla-bot/-/blob/master/data/eol.txt.erb?ref_type=heads">https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/bugzilla-bot/-/blob/master/data/eol.txt.erb?ref_type=heads</a></p>
<p>Plus one especially for Debian as apparently they don't want
their users reporting upstream:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/bugzilla-bot/-/blob/master/data/eol-debian.txt.erb?ref_type=heads">https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/bugzilla-bot/-/blob/master/data/eol-debian.txt.erb?ref_type=heads</a></p>
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Not sure whether
that is a beneficial approach considering the total of the installation
base of KDE based software.
Best,
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