How to handle KDE not respecting YOUR distros requirements?

[Elvis Angelaccio]

Hi Richard,
I'm replying only to specific points, since others already replied to your
whole message.

2016-03-27 15:34 GMT+02:00 Richard Brown <RBrownCCB at opensuse.org>:

> On 2016-03-26 13:56, Heinz Wiesinger wrote:
> > On Saturday 26 March 2016 01:41:10 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> >> How well does GNOME run on a distribution without systemd? Does it run
> at
> >> all? From what I see on the Gentoo wiki [1], GNOME needs to be patched
> in
> >> order to run with openRC, and it wasn't GNOME who provided that
> patchset.
> >
> > GNOME has a history of making questionable choices. I'm not entirely
> sure how
> > productive it is to bring *this particular* argument into the
> discussion. IMHO
> > the times when KDE needed to compare itself to GNOME are over. So let's
> just
> > let GNOME be GNOME and focus back on KDE.
>
> I personally think the whole Plasma/Applications/Frameworks/QT split
> has dramatically increased the workload of distribution packagers here
> for little or no benefit to users (I recognise it's easier to develop)
>

I think the ability to install Dolphin or Krita on, say, Ubuntu without
pulling the whole Plasma desktop is a *huge* benefit for the users.
Yes, this requires more packaging effort (with respect to just pulling
kdelibs4 as dependency), but the point is: is packaging a KDE app more
difficult than packaging a generic Qt app? Or a generic
java/python/whatever app? If yes, why?


>
> Look at the applications..are they all necessary? Does KDE needs to
> offer a office suite when almost everyone uses LibreOffice these days?
>

Without KOffice/Calligra we wouldn't have Krita. Yes, maybe some of the
Calligra apps does not reach feature-parity with the Libreoffice ones (even
though I hear Kexi is really good), but who cares? Something really good
(Krita) came out from the Calligra project, so yes it was worth to create
an entire office suite from scratch. A similar reasonsing applies to e.g.
Kdenlive. Did KDE really need to create a video editor from scratch? No it
didn't, but the Kdenlive devs did it anyway and the result is pretty damn
good.


> Does KDE really need two
> text editors?
>

There is only one text editor component, which is used by way more than 2
applications. The KPart technology is so much underestimated...

Cheers,
Elvis


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