[digiKam-users] Tip for searching the mailing list archive
Gilles Caulier
caulier.gilles at gmail.com
Tue Jan 18 13:38:07 GMT 2022
Fixed...
Gilles
Le mar. 18 janv. 2022 à 14:33, Henrik Hemrin <hehemrin at hemrin.com> a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This is a good feature you add Giles! The mailing list works well, a forum
> could also work well, I have no opinion that you should change. However the
> possibility to find already asked questions and anxwers in the mailing
> list, is positive and is an answer to an advantage that a forum has.
>
> On the support web page, maybe instead of ”(Archives)”, I will understand
> better what it is about if you update the text to eg ”Browse mailing list
> archive”.
>
> Best regards
> Henrik Hemrin
>
> 18 jan. 2022 kl. 12:42 skrev Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
>
> Something like that :
>
> https://staging.digikam.org/support/
>
> It's in staging branch of the web site. It will be online officially in a
> few minutes.
>
> Gilles
>
> Le mar. 18 janv. 2022 à 12:12, Phil <philtuckey at free.fr> a écrit :
>
>> Hi
>>
>> On duckduckgo the following search term gives better results:
>>
>> site:mail.kde.org inurl:digikam-users dng
>>
>> FWIW, this form is given in the Mailman FAQ:
>>
>> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20search%20the%20archives%20of%20the%20mailman-users%20mailing%20list%3F
>>
>> I agree that the mailing list archive is a valuable resource, and
>> searching it is hard/frustrating, as it is for mailman archives in
>> general.
>>
>> I suggest that information about how to search the archive is important
>> enough to justify putting it on the "digiKam Support" page itself,
>> https://www.digikam.org/support/, next to the link to the mailing list
>> archive. For example something like:
>>
>> Search the archive using the following search in usual search engines:
>> site:mail.kde.org inurl:digikam-users my search topic
>>
>> It appears that mailman itself does not include a search engine for its
>> archives, but sites can set up a separate search interface, such as
>> mailman itself has:
>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
>> As far as I can see, kde does not have a search interface for the lists
>> served on mail.kde.org. For example the kde lists support page:
>> https://kde.org/support/mailinglists/
>> points to the usual pipermail archive interface for the 22 years of the
>> kde list:
>> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde/
>>
>> (This message is not intended to be critical of anyone, just collecting
>> information.)
>>
>> On 18/01/2022 11:36, irthomasthomas at gmail.com wrote:
>> > Sorry, the working example link for searching "DNG" in the archive is
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng
>> > <
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fmail.kde.org%2Fpipermail%2Fdigikam-users%2F+dng
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:31 irthomasthomas at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>, <irthomasthomas at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi, as a workaround to the missing mailing list search function, try
>> > this query in your search engine: "site:url search term"
>> >
>> > E.g. to search stuff about DNG files:
>> >
>> > site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>> > <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/> dng
>> >
>> > Google seems to have better results than DDG and Brave for this type
>> > of query. D
>> > I didn't try bing. E.g.
>> >
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>> > <
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=site:https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>> >
>> > dng
>> >
>> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:15 frederic chaume,
>> > <frederic.chaume at gmail.com <mailto:frederic.chaume at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > mailing list is fine for me, only missing from my point of view
>> > is an efficient searching tool to retreive useful information ,
>> > to get knowledge from already answered questions. There is a
>> > link to access all the mails, classified by month , but unusable
>> > for any search capabilities (as far as I know)
>> > regards
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 18/01/2022 à 11:06, irthomasthomas at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:irthomasthomas at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> >> I also like this mailing list format. I think the empty forum
>> >> simply reflects the digikam user demographics and preferences.
>> >> Perhaps the mailing list promotion and onboarding can be
>> >> improved instead?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks to the team and everyone who contributes here.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 09:59 Stuart T Rogers,
>> >> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> >> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I agree, I like the mailing list and the fact that we get
>> >> responses from
>> >> the developers on a regular basis. I also think that the
>> >> mailing list
>> >> gets better requests for information than many forums
>> >> because people
>> >> stop and think before posting a question because they know
>> >> everyone on
>> >> the list will see their update.
>> >>
>> >> A forum has to be policed and that takes work which the
>> >> developers
>> >> cannot spend time on, it is also far more open to abuse
>> >> and spam.
>> >>
>> >> Stuart
>> >>
>> >> On 18/01/2022 08:53, Andrew Goodbody wrote:
>> >> > I am very much against using a forum. They are slower
>> >> and take more
>> >> > effort to read.
>> >> >
>> >> > Andrew
>> >> >
>> >> > On 18/01/2022 08:13, Jack Marxer wrote:
>> >> >> I want to thank the digiKam developers for all the work
>> >> they have done
>> >> >> in developing and maintaining such a wonderful program!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I also would like to use a forum, but I don't know if
>> >> there is someone
>> >> >> who would be willing to develop and maintain it.
>> >> >> Jack Marxer
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 3:03 AM Ty Mayn
>> >> <tyrus.mayn at gmail.com <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>
>> >> >> <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:tyrus.mayn at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After study of the public viewable archives I see
>> >> that discussion
>> >> >> is more immediate on this oldfashioned Mailman
>> >> listservice. Its
>> >> >> clear to me that it is small but has some
>> >> responsive leaders with
>> >> >> knowledge.
>> >> >> Meanwhile the similarly named digikam Forum
>> >> hosted by kde is
>> >> >> small and more inactive. After posting there this
>> >> January I resorted
>> >> >> to answering my own posting just to be partially
>> useful
>> >> >> https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
>> >> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>
>> >> >> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256
>> >> <https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=256>>
>> >> >> The energy on this list service deserves
>> >> better tools.
>> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>> >> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>
>> >> >> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/
>> >> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/>>
>> >> >> The archive has at least 17 years of useful
>> >> knowledge zipped into
>> >> >> 204 separate months that no newcomer (or even old
>> >> user)will easily
>> >> >> search.
>> >> >> Has anyone ever prepared and circulated a
>> >> consolidated archive
>> >> >> ready for global search?
>> >> >> Every posting member has their participating
>> >> email exposed to
>> >> >> weak masking that only replaces @ with "at" while
>> >> the forum tools
>> >> >> at KDE have good authentication and member shelter.
>> >> >> Am I the only one to have spoken on this
>> >> issue? I would have to
>> >> >> search the archives to know but I suppose each
>> >> current member has a
>> >> >> view and every pattern has inertia. Please accept
>> >> this as a
>> >> >> positive input on a good thing
>> >> >> Ty Mayn
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Website: https://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>> >> <https://www.stella-maris.org.uk>
>> >> or: https//www.broadstairs.org
>> >> <http://www.broadstairs.org>
>> >>
>> >
>>
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