Digikam 5.7 and printing with Photoprint
Gilles Caulier
caulier.gilles at gmail.com
Mon Sep 25 08:28:51 BST 2017
Also, if other Qt application has this kind of problem with Qt print
driver, there are good candidates to vote on it. ex : Krita, gwenview,
scribus, koffice, etc...
Gilles Caulier
2017-09-25 9:27 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
> The only way is to re-open the bug in Qt bugzilla and to write the right
> word to explain the problem again.
>
> Also the vote to this bugzilla entry is important. I'm sure that Qt team
> will take a look to entries with a good amount of vote, by order of
> priority...
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2017-09-25 8:57 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>:
>
>> I contacted Robert Krawitz who is the lead developer on Gutenprint
>> originally and with his help had that QT bug raised. Following on from
>> Maik's comments I sent them to Robert for his view.
>>
>> Here are his comments:-
>> >
>> > It's a disaster.
>> >
>> > However, if Qt is really claiming that this is due to the PPD spec,
>> > they are badly misreading it, to wit (p. 183):
>> >
>> > Only the most common page sizes are specified here. A device
>> > manufacturer is free to list a new size in a PPD file for a new
>> > device. However, care should be taken to avoid duplicating the
>> > semantics of an already-registered option keyword. Also, when
>> > creating a new option keyword, the capitalization conventions
>> > shown in the tables should be followed as much as possible; that
>> > is, the first letters of logical words should be capitalized.
>> >
>> > The comments in /usr/include/qt5/QtGui/qpagesize.h should make it very
>> > clear that this is really badly designed:
>> >
>> > // ### Qt6 Re-order and remove duplicates
>> > // NOTE: Must keep in sync with QPagedPrintEngine and QPrinter
>> >
>> > qprinter has its own problems: it only knows about a fixed (small) set
>> > of options and values; look at PaperSource, for instance.
>> >
>>
>> Some how this must be changed and get QT to understand the issue and
>> resolve it. Anything which can be done by anyone here will add pressure on
>> QT to resolve this.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>> On 24/09/17 21:29, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>>
>>> Well that is a huge issue and completely unacceptable. QT should be only
>>> listing those paper sizes supported by the printer being used, anything
>>> else is just plain wrong.
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> On 24/09/17 19:24, Maik Qualmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> This Qt problem is really bad. It is not really a bug but rather a
>>>> design
>>>> problem. Qt uses a fixed QPageSize list. This is based on Adobe
>>>> PostScript PPD
>>>> Standard v4.3. In this list is 5x7 not defined. Qt tries to break any
>>>> other
>>>> page size to this list or ignore the size.
>>>>
>>>> Maik
>>>>
>>>> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017, 19:08:49 CEST schrieb Gilles Caulier:
>>>>
>>>>> Hum, yes, the print driver properties still relevant of low level Qt
>>>>> print
>>>>> plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the bug still in Qt, this will not fixed in DK...
>>>>>
>>>>> But did you try to select PDF as output (or Gimp), organize photo
>>>>> output,
>>>>> and generate it. Gimp output want mean PDF in background. this must be
>>>>> at
>>>>> least not dependent of Qt driver. In Gimp Qt print driver is not used.
>>>>> Perhaps the result will be better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-09-24 18:59 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>> >:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That should have said A4 for paper size not A$! My bad....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/09/17 17:58, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gilles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Firstly let me apologise for the printphoto thing again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have removed the directory as describe and yes I can now find the
>>>>>>> Print
>>>>>>> Creator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless I am doing something wrong it does not work correctly for
>>>>>>> selecting the paper sizes exactly as before. I can it comes up with
>>>>>>> A$
>>>>>>> which is the default but I am unable to change the value to 5x7 or
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> others as well. This is exactly the issue with QT. I do have gimp
>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>> by the way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24/09/17 14:44, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a hidden bug. Thanks Maik to discover the origin of the
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's me few days to update the 5.8.0 pre release bundle. I will
>>>>>>>> upload
>>>>>>>> files when it's will be ready.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-09-24 12:58 GMT+02:00 Maik Qualmann <metzpinguin at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> metzpinguin at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>> Stuart,
>>>>>>>> rename/remove $HOME/.local/share/kxmlgui5/digikam to get all
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> menu entries
>>>>>>>> This bug is now fixed in digikam-5.8.0 (today).
>>>>>>>> Maik
>>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017, 12:29:25 CEST schrieb
>>>>>>>> fotografie:
>>>>>>>> > I just checked it again. The Tools Menue - Print Creator is
>>>>>>>> available in
>>>>>>>> > - preview,
>>>>>>>> > - photo processing
>>>>>>>> > - lighttable.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Did you accidentally close the menu bar? Hit CTRL - M (STRG
>>>>>>>> - M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > german keyboard) and the menu bar should appear or
>>>>>>>> disappear.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Best regards Ulf
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Am 24.09.2017 um 12:21 schrieb fotografie:
>>>>>>>> > > Hello,
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > I use the german version of DK 5.7 and 5.8.0.1 appimage
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu and
>>>>>>>> > > the function is available in both versions under
>>>>>>>> > > Tools - Print Creaqtor
>>>>>>>> > > in my german version it is:
>>>>>>>> > > Extras - Print Creator
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Gimp is installed on my machine and DK uses Gimp for
>>>>>>>> printing
>>>>>>>> the images
>>>>>>>> > > Best regards Ulf
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Am 24.09.2017 um 11:46 schrieb Stuart T Rogers:
>>>>>>>> > >> I just tried the 5.8 appimage and cannot see it in there
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >> Stuart
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> On 24/09/17 10:12, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>> Gilles
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> I have just looked at the Tools menu at the top of the
>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> 5.7.0 and there is no Print Creator menu entry. Also
>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> find it
>>>>>>>> > >>> in any other menu either which is why I thought the
>>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>>> function ha
>>>>>>>> > >>> been removed.
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> Stuart
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> On 24/09/17 10:02, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>>> But we don't remove print feature at all...
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Print must be avaialble everywhere in 5.7.0 release.
>>>>>>>> Look
>>>>>>>> for ex in
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Tools menu, there is an entry named "Print Creator"
>>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> send data to print to Gimp engine to process work on
>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>> device.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> 2017-09-24 10:47 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>:
>>>>>>>> > >>>> My apologies I can see it in the right click menu
>>>>>>>> on an
>>>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Obviously this is there because I have it
>>>>>>>> installed. I
>>>>>>>> had assumed,
>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrongly, it was there because the print function
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> been removed
>>>>>>>> > >>>> from digikam.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> One of my main uses of digikam is to print my
>>>>>>>> photos and
>>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>> > >>>> to it
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> using QT this was what I always used for printing.
>>>>>>>> Because of
>>>>>>>> > >>>> the QT
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> bug it was not possible to use the printing
>>>>>>>> facilities
>>>>>>>> of digikam.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Now I realise that the print function problems are
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> digikam's
>>>>>>>> > >>>> fault but it is so frustrating that QT are
>>>>>>>> ignoring the
>>>>>>>> paper size
>>>>>>>> > >>>> selection bug (QTBUG-58733), this has been open
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> February this
>>>>>>>> > >>>> year and nothing has been done by the QT devs.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> If the printing capabilities of QT are not fixed
>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>>> > >>>> options of digikam restored I will need to try to
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>> > >>>> image
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> management tool which allows me to both manage and
>>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>>> > >>>> successfully which is a great shame since I do
>>>>>>>> like its
>>>>>>>> management
>>>>>>>> > >>>> capabilities. It is a huge shame that applications
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> digikam
>>>>>>>> > >>>> have
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> to remove useful options because of a bug
>>>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Stuart
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 24/09/17 08:42, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>>> What do you mean by "photoprint" ? Where do
>>>>>>>> you see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> reference of photoprint in digiKam ?
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> 2017-09-24 9:33 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk <mailto:
>>>>>>>> stuart at stella-maris.or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> g.uk>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>>:
>>>>>>>> > >>>> I noticed that printing now is
>>>>>>>> accomplished by
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Photoprint
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> rather than the original tools. However
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> does not work
>>>>>>>> > >>>> for me.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Photoprint is quite old and seems not to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> actively
>>>>>>>> > >>>> supported
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> although the website still exists. It
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> like it works
>>>>>>>> > >>>> and seems
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> to send data to my Canon iP7250 (over
>>>>>>>> wireless)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> nothing
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> happens
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> at the printer. Has anyone here actually
>>>>>>>> > >>>> printed
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> successfully using
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Photoprint and if so how? Was the printer
>>>>>>>> wireless or USB
>>>>>>>> > >>>> connected?
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> I am using the latest available version of
>>>>>>>> Photoprint.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Sadly the QT paper size bug preventing
>>>>>>>> successful use of
>>>>>>>> > >>>> printing
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> seems to be being ignored by the QT
>>>>>>>> developers.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Stuart
>>>>>>>> > >>>> -- Website:
>>>>>>>> http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>>> > >>>> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> -- Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>>> > >>>> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gruß Maik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>>
>
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