Digikam 5.7 and printing with Photoprint
Gilles Caulier
caulier.gilles at gmail.com
Mon Sep 25 08:27:25 BST 2017
The only way is to re-open the bug in Qt bugzilla and to write the right
word to explain the problem again.
Also the vote to this bugzilla entry is important. I'm sure that Qt team
will take a look to entries with a good amount of vote, by order of
priority...
Gilles Caulier
2017-09-25 8:57 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>:
> I contacted Robert Krawitz who is the lead developer on Gutenprint
> originally and with his help had that QT bug raised. Following on from
> Maik's comments I sent them to Robert for his view.
>
> Here are his comments:-
> >
> > It's a disaster.
> >
> > However, if Qt is really claiming that this is due to the PPD spec,
> > they are badly misreading it, to wit (p. 183):
> >
> > Only the most common page sizes are specified here. A device
> > manufacturer is free to list a new size in a PPD file for a new
> > device. However, care should be taken to avoid duplicating the
> > semantics of an already-registered option keyword. Also, when
> > creating a new option keyword, the capitalization conventions
> > shown in the tables should be followed as much as possible; that
> > is, the first letters of logical words should be capitalized.
> >
> > The comments in /usr/include/qt5/QtGui/qpagesize.h should make it very
> > clear that this is really badly designed:
> >
> > // ### Qt6 Re-order and remove duplicates
> > // NOTE: Must keep in sync with QPagedPrintEngine and QPrinter
> >
> > qprinter has its own problems: it only knows about a fixed (small) set
> > of options and values; look at PaperSource, for instance.
> >
>
> Some how this must be changed and get QT to understand the issue and
> resolve it. Anything which can be done by anyone here will add pressure on
> QT to resolve this.
>
> Stuart
>
>
> On 24/09/17 21:29, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>
>> Well that is a huge issue and completely unacceptable. QT should be only
>> listing those paper sizes supported by the printer being used, anything
>> else is just plain wrong.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On 24/09/17 19:24, Maik Qualmann wrote:
>>
>>> This Qt problem is really bad. It is not really a bug but rather a design
>>> problem. Qt uses a fixed QPageSize list. This is based on Adobe
>>> PostScript PPD
>>> Standard v4.3. In this list is 5x7 not defined. Qt tries to break any
>>> other
>>> page size to this list or ignore the size.
>>>
>>> Maik
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017, 19:08:49 CEST schrieb Gilles Caulier:
>>>
>>>> Hum, yes, the print driver properties still relevant of low level Qt
>>>> print
>>>> plugin.
>>>>
>>>> If the bug still in Qt, this will not fixed in DK...
>>>>
>>>> But did you try to select PDF as output (or Gimp), organize photo
>>>> output,
>>>> and generate it. Gimp output want mean PDF in background. this must be
>>>> at
>>>> least not dependent of Qt driver. In Gimp Qt print driver is not used.
>>>> Perhaps the result will be better.
>>>>
>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>
>>>> 2017-09-24 18:59 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>>> That should have said A4 for paper size not A$! My bad....
>>>>>
>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24/09/17 17:58, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gilles
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly let me apologise for the printphoto thing again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have removed the directory as describe and yes I can now find the
>>>>>> Print
>>>>>> Creator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless I am doing something wrong it does not work correctly for
>>>>>> selecting the paper sizes exactly as before. I can it comes up with A$
>>>>>> which is the default but I am unable to change the value to 5x7 or
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> others as well. This is exactly the issue with QT. I do have gimp
>>>>>> installed
>>>>>> by the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/09/17 14:44, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a hidden bug. Thanks Maik to discover the origin of the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's me few days to update the 5.8.0 pre release bundle. I will
>>>>>>> upload
>>>>>>> files when it's will be ready.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-09-24 12:58 GMT+02:00 Maik Qualmann <metzpinguin at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> metzpinguin at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>> Stuart,
>>>>>>> rename/remove $HOME/.local/share/kxmlgui5/digikam to get all
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> menu entries
>>>>>>> This bug is now fixed in digikam-5.8.0 (today).
>>>>>>> Maik
>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017, 12:29:25 CEST schrieb
>>>>>>> fotografie:
>>>>>>> > I just checked it again. The Tools Menue - Print Creator is
>>>>>>> available in
>>>>>>> > - preview,
>>>>>>> > - photo processing
>>>>>>> > - lighttable.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Did you accidentally close the menu bar? Hit CTRL - M (STRG
>>>>>>> - M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > german keyboard) and the menu bar should appear or disappear.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Best regards Ulf
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Am 24.09.2017 um 12:21 schrieb fotografie:
>>>>>>> > > Hello,
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > I use the german version of DK 5.7 and 5.8.0.1 appimage for
>>>>>>> Ubuntu and
>>>>>>> > > the function is available in both versions under
>>>>>>> > > Tools - Print Creaqtor
>>>>>>> > > in my german version it is:
>>>>>>> > > Extras - Print Creator
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Gimp is installed on my machine and DK uses Gimp for
>>>>>>> printing
>>>>>>> the images
>>>>>>> > > Best regards Ulf
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Am 24.09.2017 um 11:46 schrieb Stuart T Rogers:
>>>>>>> > >> I just tried the 5.8 appimage and cannot see it in there
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> Stuart
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> On 24/09/17 10:12, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>> Gilles
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> I have just looked at the Tools menu at the top of the
>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>> 5.7.0 and there is no Print Creator menu entry. Also
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> find it
>>>>>>> > >>> in any other menu either which is why I thought the print
>>>>>>> function ha
>>>>>>> > >>> been removed.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Stuart
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> On 24/09/17 10:02, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>> But we don't remove print feature at all...
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Print must be avaialble everywhere in 5.7.0 release.
>>>>>>> Look
>>>>>>> for ex in
>>>>>>> > >>>> Tools menu, there is an entry named "Print Creator"
>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> send data to print to Gimp engine to process work on
>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>> device.
>>>>>>> > >>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> 2017-09-24 10:47 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>:
>>>>>>> > >>>> My apologies I can see it in the right click menu
>>>>>>> on an
>>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>> > >>>> Obviously this is there because I have it
>>>>>>> installed. I
>>>>>>> had assumed,
>>>>>>> > >>>> wrongly, it was there because the print function has
>>>>>>> been removed
>>>>>>> > >>>> from digikam.
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> One of my main uses of digikam is to print my
>>>>>>> photos and
>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>> > >>>> to it
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> using QT this was what I always used for printing.
>>>>>>> Because of
>>>>>>> > >>>> the QT
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> bug it was not possible to use the printing
>>>>>>> facilities
>>>>>>> of digikam.
>>>>>>> > >>>> Now I realise that the print function problems are
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> digikam's
>>>>>>> > >>>> fault but it is so frustrating that QT are ignoring
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> paper size
>>>>>>> > >>>> selection bug (QTBUG-58733), this has been open
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> February this
>>>>>>> > >>>> year and nothing has been done by the QT devs.
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> If the printing capabilities of QT are not fixed
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>> > >>>> options of digikam restored I will need to try to
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> > >>>> image
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> management tool which allows me to both manage and
>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>> > >>>> successfully which is a great shame since I do like
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> management
>>>>>>> > >>>> capabilities. It is a huge shame that applications
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> digikam
>>>>>>> > >>>> have
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> to remove useful options because of a bug elsewhere.
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Stuart
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> On 24/09/17 08:42, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>> What do you mean by "photoprint" ? Where do you
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> reference of photoprint in digiKam ?
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> 2017-09-24 9:33 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
>>>>>>> > >>>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk <mailto:
>>>>>>> stuart at stella-maris.or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> g.uk>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>>:
>>>>>>> > >>>> I noticed that printing now is
>>>>>>> accomplished by
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> > >>>> Photoprint
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> rather than the original tools. However
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> does not work
>>>>>>> > >>>> for me.
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Photoprint is quite old and seems not to be
>>>>>>> actively
>>>>>>> > >>>> supported
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> although the website still exists. It looks
>>>>>>> like it works
>>>>>>> > >>>> and seems
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> to send data to my Canon iP7250 (over
>>>>>>> wireless)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> nothing
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> happens
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> at the printer. Has anyone here actually
>>>>>>> > >>>> printed
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> successfully using
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Photoprint and if so how? Was the printer
>>>>>>> wireless or USB
>>>>>>> > >>>> connected?
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> I am using the latest available version of
>>>>>>> Photoprint.
>>>>>>> > >>>> Sadly the QT paper size bug preventing
>>>>>>> successful use of
>>>>>>> > >>>> printing
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> seems to be being ignored by the QT
>>>>>>> developers.
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Stuart
>>>>>>> > >>>> -- Website:
>>>>>>> http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>> > >>>> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> -- Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>>>> > >>>> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gruß Maik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>>>>> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
> or: http://www.broadstairs.org
>
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