Digikam 5.7 and printing images
Stuart T Rogers
stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
Mon Sep 25 09:24:13 BST 2017
Gilles the bug QTBUG-58733 is still open and anyone who has a QT account
can vote on it.
Stuart
On 25/09/17 08:28, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Also, if other Qt application has this kind of problem with Qt print
> driver, there are good candidates to vote on it. ex : Krita, gwenview,
> scribus, koffice, etc...
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2017-09-25 9:27 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com
> <mailto:caulier.gilles at gmail.com>>:
>
> The only way is to re-open the bug in Qt bugzilla and to write the
> right word to explain the problem again.
>
> Also the vote to this bugzilla entry is important. I'm sure that Qt
> team will take a look to entries with a good amount of vote, by
> order of priority...
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2017-09-25 8:57 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>:
>
> I contacted Robert Krawitz who is the lead developer on
> Gutenprint originally and with his help had that QT bug raised.
> Following on from Maik's comments I sent them to Robert for his
> view.
>
> Here are his comments:-
> >
> > It's a disaster.
> >
> > However, if Qt is really claiming that this is due to the PPD
> spec,
> > they are badly misreading it, to wit (p. 183):
> >
> > Only the most common page sizes are specified here. A device
> > manufacturer is free to list a new size in a PPD file
> for a new
> > device. However, care should be taken to avoid
> duplicating the
> > semantics of an already-registered option keyword. Also,
> when
> > creating a new option keyword, the capitalization
> conventions
> > shown in the tables should be followed as much as
> possible; that
> > is, the first letters of logical words should be
> capitalized.
> >
> > The comments in /usr/include/qt5/QtGui/qpagesize.h should
> make it very
> > clear that this is really badly designed:
> >
> > // ### Qt6 Re-order and remove duplicates
> > // NOTE: Must keep in sync with QPagedPrintEngine and
> QPrinter
> >
> > qprinter has its own problems: it only knows about a fixed
> (small) set
> > of options and values; look at PaperSource, for instance.
> >
>
> Some how this must be changed and get QT to understand the issue
> and resolve it. Anything which can be done by anyone here will
> add pressure on QT to resolve this.
>
> Stuart
>
>
> On 24/09/17 21:29, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>
> Well that is a huge issue and completely unacceptable. QT
> should be only listing those paper sizes supported by the
> printer being used, anything else is just plain wrong.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 24/09/17 19:24, Maik Qualmann wrote:
>
> This Qt problem is really bad. It is not really a bug
> but rather a design
> problem. Qt uses a fixed QPageSize list. This is based
> on Adobe PostScript PPD
> Standard v4.3. In this list is 5x7 not defined. Qt tries
> to break any other
> page size to this list or ignore the size.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017, 19:08:49 CEST schrieb
> Gilles Caulier:
>
> Hum, yes, the print driver properties still relevant
> of low level Qt print
> plugin.
>
> If the bug still in Qt, this will not fixed in DK...
>
> But did you try to select PDF as output (or Gimp),
> organize photo output,
> and generate it. Gimp output want mean PDF in
> background. this must be at
> least not dependent of Qt driver. In Gimp Qt print
> driver is not used.
> Perhaps the result will be better.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2017-09-24 18:59 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>:
>
> That should have said A4 for paper size not A$!
> My bad....
>
> Stuart
>
> On 24/09/17 17:58, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>
> Gilles
>
> Firstly let me apologise for the printphoto
> thing again.
>
> I have removed the directory as describe and
> yes I can now find the Print
> Creator.
>
> Unless I am doing something wrong it does
> not work correctly for
> selecting the paper sizes exactly as before.
> I can it comes up with A$
> which is the default but I am unable to
> change the value to 5x7 or many
> others as well. This is exactly the issue
> with QT. I do have gimp
> installed
> by the way.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 24/09/17 14:44, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>
> It's a hidden bug. Thanks Maik to
> discover the origin of the problem.
>
> Let's me few days to update the 5.8.0
> pre release bundle. I will upload
> files when it's will be ready.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2017-09-24 12:58 GMT+02:00 Maik Qualmann
> <metzpinguin at gmail.com
> <mailto:metzpinguin at gmail.com> <mailto:
>
> metzpinguin at gmail.com
> <mailto:metzpinguin at gmail.com>>>:
> Stuart,
> rename/remove
> $HOME/.local/share/kxmlgui5/digikam to
> get all new
> menu entries
> This bug is now fixed in
> digikam-5.8.0 (today).
> Maik
> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017,
> 12:29:25 CEST schrieb fotografie:
> > I just checked it again. The
> Tools Menue - Print Creator is
> available in
> > - preview,
> > - photo processing
> > - lighttable.
> >
> > Did you accidentally close the
> menu bar? Hit CTRL - M (STRG - M
>
> on a
>
> > german keyboard) and the menu
> bar should appear or disappear.
> >
> > Best regards Ulf
> >
> > Am 24.09.2017 um 12:21 schrieb
> fotografie:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I use the german version of
> DK 5.7 and 5.8.0.1 appimage for
> Ubuntu and
> > > the function is available in
> both versions under
> > > Tools - Print Creaqtor
> > > in my german version it is:
> > > Extras - Print Creator
> > >
> > > Gimp is installed on my
> machine and DK uses Gimp for printing
> the images
> > > Best regards Ulf
> > >
> > > Am 24.09.2017 um 11:46
> schrieb Stuart T Rogers:
> > >> I just tried the 5.8
> appimage and cannot see it in there
>
> either.
>
> > >> Stuart
> > >>
> > >> On 24/09/17 10:12, Stuart T
> Rogers wrote:
> > >>> Gilles
> > >>>
> > >>> I have just looked at the
> Tools menu at the top of the screen
>
> in
>
> > >>> 5.7.0 and there is no Print
> Creator menu entry. Also cannot
> find it
> > >>> in any other menu either
> which is why I thought the print
> function ha
> > >>> been removed.
> > >>>
> > >>> Stuart
> > >>>
> > >>> On 24/09/17 10:02, Gilles
> Caulier wrote:
> > >>>> But we don't remove print
> feature at all...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Print must be avaialble
> everywhere in 5.7.0 release. Look
> for ex in
> > >>>> Tools menu, there is an
> entry named "Print Creator" that you
>
> can
>
> > >>>> send data to print to Gimp
> engine to process work on printer
> device.
> > >>>> Gilles Caulier
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2017-09-24 10:47 GMT+02:00
> Stuart T Rogers
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>>:
> > >>>> My apologies I can see
> it in the right click menu on an
> image.
> > >>>> Obviously this is
> there because I have it installed. I
> had assumed,
> > >>>> wrongly, it was there
> because the print function has
> been removed
> > >>>> from digikam.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> One of my main uses of
> digikam is to print my photos and
> prior
> > >>>> to it
> > >>>>
> > >>>> using QT this was what
> I always used for printing.
> Because of
> > >>>> the QT
> > >>>>
> > >>>> bug it was not
> possible to use the printing facilities
> of digikam.
> > >>>> Now I realise that the
> print function problems are not
> digikam's
> > >>>> fault but it is so
> frustrating that QT are ignoring the
> paper size
> > >>>> selection bug
> (QTBUG-58733), this has been open since
> February this
> > >>>> year and nothing has
> been done by the QT devs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If the printing
> capabilities of QT are not fixed and the
> print
> > >>>> options of digikam
> restored I will need to try to find
> another
> > >>>> image
> > >>>>
> > >>>> management tool which
> allows me to both manage and print
> > >>>> successfully which is
> a great shame since I do like its
> management
> > >>>> capabilities. It is a
> huge shame that applications like
> digikam
> > >>>> have
> > >>>>
> > >>>> to remove useful
> options because of a bug elsewhere.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stuart
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 24/09/17 08:42,
> Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > >>>> What do you mean
> by "photoprint" ? Where do you see
>
> any
>
> > >>>> reference of
> photoprint in digiKam ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2017-09-24 9:33
> GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
> > >>>>
> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.or
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.or>
>
> g.uk <http://g.uk>>>
>
> > >>>>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>
> > >>>>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>>>:
> > >>>> I noticed
> that printing now is accomplished by
> using
> > >>>> Photoprint
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rather than
> the original tools. However this
> does not work
> > >>>> for me.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Photoprint is
> quite old and seems not to be
> actively
> > >>>> supported
> > >>>>
> > >>>> although the
> website still exists. It looks
> like it works
> > >>>> and seems
> > >>>>
> > >>>> to send data
> to my Canon iP7250 (over wireless)
>
> but
>
> > >>>> nothing
> > >>>>
> > >>>> happens
> > >>>>
> > >>>> at the
> printer. Has anyone here actually
> > >>>> printed
> > >>>>
> > >>>> successfully using
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Photoprint
> and if so how? Was the printer
> wireless or USB
> > >>>> connected?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am using
> the latest available version of
> Photoprint.
> > >>>> Sadly the QT
> paper size bug preventing
> successful use of
> > >>>> printing
> > >>>>
> > >>>> seems to be
> being ignored by the QT developers.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stuart
> > >>>> --
> Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
> > >>>> or:
> http://www.broadstairs.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -- Website:
> http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
> > >>>> or:
> http://www.broadstairs.org
> --
> Gruß Maik
>
>
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