[Digikam-devel] Separate bugs mailing list?

[todd rme]

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Tom Albers <toma at kde.org> wrote:
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Gilles Caulier
>> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2011/8/10 todd rme <toddrme2178 at gmail.com>:
>> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Tom Albers <toma at kde.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Gilles Caulier
>> >>>> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > 2011/8/10 todd rme <toddrme2178 at gmail.com>:
>> >>>> >> Currently the vast majority of emails to this list are
>> >>>> >> automatic
>> >>>> >> emails from bugs.kde.org, making it very hard to find the
>> >>>> >> non-bug
>> >>>> >> discussions and hard for non-developers who are trying to
>> >>>> >> follow
>> >>>> >> the
>> >>>> >> digikam development process.  To be specific, since the start
>> >>>> >> of
>> >>>> >> August there have been 333 non-spam emails to this list.  Of
>> >>>> >> those,
>> >>>> >> 311 (over 93%) were automatic emails from bugs.kde.org, and
>> >>>> >> another 9
>> >>>> >> were from git commits or reviewboard.  Only 13 were
>> >>>> >> announcements
>> >>>> >> or
>> >>>> >> discussions directly on the mailing list.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Given the high volume of bug reports relative to other
>> >>>> >> emails, I
>> >>>> >> think
>> >>>> >> it would be very helpful if bug reports were sent to a
>> >>>> >> second,
>> >>>> >> dedicated mailing list rather than the main list.  This would
>> >>>> >> make
>> >>>> >> it
>> >>>> >> easier to follow discussions and make it easier to filter and
>> >>>> >> categorize emails in email programs.  I suspect, but am not
>> >>>> >> sure,
>> >>>> >> that
>> >>>> >> it would also encourage more discussion since emails to the
>> >>>> >> list
>> >>>> >> would
>> >>>> >> not get lost so easily.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> -Todd
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I agree.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > There is a volumnter to ask a new email adress to kde team
>> >>>> > dedicated
>> >>>> > to trace bug report and configure it to bugzilla ?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Gilles Caulier
>> >>>>
>> >>>> CCed Tom Albers, who seems to be keeping track of the mailing
>> >>>> lists
>> >>>> at
>> >>>> least to some extent.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> @ Tom: Do you have any suggestions on how to go about doing
>> >>>> this?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Todd
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Usually dedicated mailinglists for bugs don't work. It will only
>> >>> be interesting for 1 or 2 people.
>> >>>
>> >>> What I would like to suggest is this:
>> >>>
>> >>> We assign a special bugzilla user to all digikam bugs. That way
>> >>> the mails to the -devel mailinglist will stop.
>> >>>
>> >>> For people that want to get all the mails, they can go to
>> >>> bugzilla and 'follow' that special user. Then they get a mail
>> >>> for all changes as they have received up to now.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is that an idea? If so, please make a sysadmin bugreport (see
>> >>> footer bugs.kde.org) so we can set it up for you.
>> >>
>> >> That would be fine for me, but the digikam developers would need
>> >> to
>> >> make the final decision.
>> >>
>> >> -Todd
>> >
>> > One user who receive all bugzilla mail ? It's weird...
>> >
>> > typically, all developers are registered to a ML. Developers will
>> > be
>> > triggered to interesting reports (typically each developer maintain
>> > a
>> > part in digiKam).
>> >
>> > If only one guy receive bugzilla notification, this filtering will
>> > be
>> > broken. One people cannot dispatch/assign bug to right developers.
>>
>> I think the idea is to have one "virtual" bugs.kde.org user, say
>> "digikam-developers" or something like that.  That user is
>> automatically subscribed to all digikam bug reports.
>>
>> On bugs.kde.org, individual users can say that they want to "watch"
>> particular users.  Here is the description from bugs.kde.org, which
>> explains it better than I can:
>>
>> "If you watch a user, it is as if you are standing in their shoes for
>> the purposes of getting email. Email is sent or not according to your
>> preferences for their relationship to the bug (e.g. Assignee)."
>>
>> So anyone who watches that virtual user will automatically get all
>> the
>> digikam bug reports emailed to them directly by bugs.kde.org without
>> having to through a mailing list or individually subscribe to bugs.
>> Anyone who wants to stop getting these emails can just remove the
>> "virtual" user from their watch list.
>>
>> What is more, I think it could even be broken up more finely, with
>> "virtual" users for any digikam component (although I am not sure
>> about that).  If you do it that way, users could pick which
>> components
>> they wish to follow by watching particular users.
>>
>> Did I explain that right, Tom?
>
> Perfectly! Come work for the sysadmin team :)
>
> One tiny correction: the mails from bugzilla contain the component in the headers if i recall correctly, so your breaking up idea is not needed, you can filter in your mail client.
>
> Best,

So does this sound like a good plan to everyone?

-Todd