[Digikam-devel] Separate bugs mailing list?

Tom Albers toma at kde.org
Wed Aug 10 12:36:23 BST 2011


----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Gilles Caulier
> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2011/8/10 todd rme <toddrme2178 at gmail.com>:
> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Tom Albers <toma at kde.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Gilles Caulier
> >>>> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > 2011/8/10 todd rme <toddrme2178 at gmail.com>:
> >>>> >> Currently the vast majority of emails to this list are
> >>>> >> automatic
> >>>> >> emails from bugs.kde.org, making it very hard to find the
> >>>> >> non-bug
> >>>> >> discussions and hard for non-developers who are trying to
> >>>> >> follow
> >>>> >> the
> >>>> >> digikam development process.  To be specific, since the start
> >>>> >> of
> >>>> >> August there have been 333 non-spam emails to this list.  Of
> >>>> >> those,
> >>>> >> 311 (over 93%) were automatic emails from bugs.kde.org, and
> >>>> >> another 9
> >>>> >> were from git commits or reviewboard.  Only 13 were
> >>>> >> announcements
> >>>> >> or
> >>>> >> discussions directly on the mailing list.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Given the high volume of bug reports relative to other
> >>>> >> emails, I
> >>>> >> think
> >>>> >> it would be very helpful if bug reports were sent to a
> >>>> >> second,
> >>>> >> dedicated mailing list rather than the main list.  This would
> >>>> >> make
> >>>> >> it
> >>>> >> easier to follow discussions and make it easier to filter and
> >>>> >> categorize emails in email programs.  I suspect, but am not
> >>>> >> sure,
> >>>> >> that
> >>>> >> it would also encourage more discussion since emails to the
> >>>> >> list
> >>>> >> would
> >>>> >> not get lost so easily.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -Todd
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I agree.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > There is a volumnter to ask a new email adress to kde team
> >>>> > dedicated
> >>>> > to trace bug report and configure it to bugzilla ?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Gilles Caulier
> >>>>
> >>>> CCed Tom Albers, who seems to be keeping track of the mailing
> >>>> lists
> >>>> at
> >>>> least to some extent.
> >>>>
> >>>> @ Tom: Do you have any suggestions on how to go about doing
> >>>> this?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Todd
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Usually dedicated mailinglists for bugs don't work. It will only
> >>> be interesting for 1 or 2 people.
> >>>
> >>> What I would like to suggest is this:
> >>>
> >>> We assign a special bugzilla user to all digikam bugs. That way
> >>> the mails to the -devel mailinglist will stop.
> >>>
> >>> For people that want to get all the mails, they can go to
> >>> bugzilla and 'follow' that special user. Then they get a mail
> >>> for all changes as they have received up to now.
> >>>
> >>> Is that an idea? If so, please make a sysadmin bugreport (see
> >>> footer bugs.kde.org) so we can set it up for you.
> >>
> >> That would be fine for me, but the digikam developers would need
> >> to
> >> make the final decision.
> >>
> >> -Todd
> >
> > One user who receive all bugzilla mail ? It's weird...
> >
> > typically, all developers are registered to a ML. Developers will
> > be
> > triggered to interesting reports (typically each developer maintain
> > a
> > part in digiKam).
> >
> > If only one guy receive bugzilla notification, this filtering will
> > be
> > broken. One people cannot dispatch/assign bug to right developers.
> 
> I think the idea is to have one "virtual" bugs.kde.org user, say
> "digikam-developers" or something like that.  That user is
> automatically subscribed to all digikam bug reports.
> 
> On bugs.kde.org, individual users can say that they want to "watch"
> particular users.  Here is the description from bugs.kde.org, which
> explains it better than I can:
> 
> "If you watch a user, it is as if you are standing in their shoes for
> the purposes of getting email. Email is sent or not according to your
> preferences for their relationship to the bug (e.g. Assignee)."
> 
> So anyone who watches that virtual user will automatically get all
> the
> digikam bug reports emailed to them directly by bugs.kde.org without
> having to through a mailing list or individually subscribe to bugs.
> Anyone who wants to stop getting these emails can just remove the
> "virtual" user from their watch list.
> 
> What is more, I think it could even be broken up more finely, with
> "virtual" users for any digikam component (although I am not sure
> about that).  If you do it that way, users could pick which
> components
> they wish to follow by watching particular users.
> 
> Did I explain that right, Tom?

Perfectly! Come work for the sysadmin team :)

One tiny correction: the mails from bugzilla contain the component in the headers if i recall correctly, so your breaking up idea is not needed, you can filter in your mail client.

Best,
-- 
Tom Albers
KDE Sysadmin



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