Absolutely awesome plasmoid idea: the playlist itself

[Robert Smits]

On January 7, 2009 02:48:59 pm Henry de Valence wrote:
> On Wed January 7 2009 4:40:39 pm Orville Bennett wrote:

> > BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRNED. Sorry, couldn't resist.
> >
> > In any case Bob (may I call you Bob?) has a good point here...
>
> Except it wasn't a good burn or even a very good point.
>
> a) it wasn't a good point because:
>
> With regard to "The current state of KDE4 does not encourage one to adopt
> it", the specific complaint usually provided to "why not use KDE 4" is "it
> doesn't have this specific feature $foo like in KDE 3.5.x", and that
> complaint is *really* irrelevant in this context because Plasma simply
> didn't exist—there's no way you could have (or would) have used KDesktop in
> the same way (i.e. embedded into Amarok). You'd have to go with the way 1.4
> did it, and that wasn't as nice as plasma, in my opinion (see below).

I didn't suggest KDE4 wasn't ready because it didn't have a particular 
feature, so it's a false argument in your part to put words on my mouth I 
didn't say and then respond to your own false argument.

I don't want to adopt KDE4 because it has far too many bugs and far too few 
features that I like. In particular, I don't care much for "plasmoids" and 
the re-arrangement of my desktop. So I don't intend to switch to KDE4 any 
time soon. I'll keep checking it out, from time to time, but it may be a long 
time before I'm ready to leave KDE3.

> The reason it'd be a "great idea" to move the playlist into a plasmoid is
> that it would allow more efficient use of screen real estate.  Furthermore,
> plasmoids in general are a "great idea" because they allow users to easily
> customize their music player in a way that was simply not possible in
> Amarok 1.4, and they allow for cool new things very easily, since all you
> have to do is write a plasmoid for it, not find a way to add it into some
> other part of Amarok and try not to clutter up the UI. And, looking into
> the (distant) future, someday it might even be possible to download extra
> QtScript plasmoids with GHNS.

You see, Henry, I think plasmoids suck. I'd rather not have any feature of 
Amarok, which I really really like depend on bling from KDE4 to work. 
>
> As to "using desktops that have them", you don't have to use plasma as your
> desktop, you just have to have the plasma libraries installed. Moving the
> playlist into a plasmoid does not change this one bit; you'd have to have
> those libraries anyways unless Amarok completely gave up plasma, which I
> think is totally unlikely.

I don't care about which libraries I need installed, I just don't want the 
only option for my playlist to be in a plasmoid. It would be fine with me if 
you make it an option I can refuse, but I'd like to be able to use Amarok2 in 
KDE3.

Bob.

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