extragear/multimedia/amarok

[Big O]

On Feb 3, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Mark Kretschmann wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Mark Kretschmann  
> <kretschmann at kde.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Leo Franchi <lfranchi at kde.org> wrote:
>>> SVN commit 920313 by lfranchi:
>>>
>>> switch to linking to libplasma from kdelibs 4.2 instead of our  
>>> own. awesome!
>>> this depends on kde 4.2, but i have checked with the distros and  
>>> it will not be a problem at all for 2.1 to depend on 2.2, even in  
>>> a best-case-scenario where we release in 2 months.
>>
>> As I had already explained on IRC, I request to reconsider this
>> commit. I do not think it wise to start depending on KDE 4.2 right
>> now, for a number of reasons:
>>
>> 1)
>> KDE 4.2 was officially released on January 27 2009. In other words: a
>> few days ago. This is very little time.
>>
>> We _are_ going to lose a number of contributors and testers because  
>> of
>> this. It's obvious that not all of our SVN users are necessarily  
>> using
>> KDE 4.2 yet.
>
> To expand on my own post: About one hour after the switch the
> following happened on the #amarok.dev IRC channel:
>
> (removed some lines of noise, but the tenor of the discussion is  
> unchanged)
>
> 20:50 < LaStik> devs, do you know, can i compile kde 4.2 on kubuntu  
> 8.04 ?
> 20:50 < lfranchi> LaStik: you can get the packages if you want
> 20:50 < markey> see, and here the fun starts
> 20:50 < markey> ^
> 20:50 < markey> :)
> 20:51 < LaStik> lfranchi: for 8.04 no packages with kde 4.2 :(
> 20:51 < Mamarok> LaStik: not a good idea to do it on 8.04
> 20:51 < Mamarok> the 4.2 packages are for 8.10 only
> 20:51  * lfranchi defers to  ubuntu people for proper 4.2 fetching  
> techniques
> 20:52 < markey> like nostradamus, I did exactly foresee these problems
> and others
> 20:52 < Mamarok> LaStik: there's a repo to activate, experimental, see
> kubuntu.org
> 20:52 < markey> or maybe because I have some experience with things
> 20:52 < markey> but yeah, ignore that
> 20:52 < Mamarok> but you will have to upgrade your distro first
> 20:52 < LaStik> Mamarok: i need to compile Amarok :))
> 20:52 < lfranchi> markey: technically youa re only right if LaStik
> decides to leave amarok
> 20:52 < lfranchi> :)
> 20:53 < Nightrose> LaStik: 8.04 is old - you should upgrade to 8.10
> 20:53 < LaStik> Nightrose: i know, but i think 8.10 is slow
> 20:54 < Nightrose> what exactly is slow?
> 20:54 < sven423> after an uncaught exception a script should be
> stopped, no matter what, right?
> 20:54 < Mamarok> Nightrose: a lot of people will remain on 8.04
> because of the non-KDE LTS parts
>
>
> Further on, I did the upgrade dance today myself on my main
> workstation, running Kubuntu 8.10. The upgrade itself was pretty
> trivial (the instructions are good), but I did end up with multiple
> package conflicts, which had to be resolved manually. Myriam and
> Jonathan Riddell helped me with this.
>
> All in all, the upgrade took about 70 minutes, and a good deal of
> technical expertise. A newbie might have given up.
>
>
> Now, do you still think the KDE 4.2 requirement is not going to lose
> us contributors and users?
I fail to see how users from an old version of one distro are that  
important to the testing community.
I want 8.04 4.2 packages for my box at work and won't upgrade it to  
8.10 just to get them. So I'll probably end up just compiling 4.2.x.
A pain? For sure. End of the world? I think not.
>
>
> -- 
> Mark Kretschmann
> Amarok Developer
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