marked up webwords for PA3

[Carl Symons]

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer <colomar at autistici.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 04 October 2012 18:06:22 Carl Symons wrote:
>> > - The webwords have a whole paragraph on recommendations, which are simply
>> > not included in PA3. Tracking of user behavior is there, but it currently
>> > isn't used anywhere (or is there a place I missed) because the
>> > recommendation overlay was deactivated. People looking for the
>> > recommendations would be in for a big disappointment, so I'm not sure if
>> > we should mention them.
>> It should come out. However, I just looked at the PA3 RC. It has the
>> recommendation tab, but perhaps it doesn't really do anything. If that
>> is the case, then the write up should be changed.
>
> I see, looks like it's made its way in again. Iirc it was removed before
> because it didn't work as expected yet.
> @Ivan: Do the recommendations work as expected by now or were they put back in
> by accident?
>
>> > - I still don't think we should market Calligra Active in the announcement
>> > like it's a full-fledged office suite. It is an office document _viewer_
>> > (with great compatibility for all kinds of office formats), no more, no
>> > less. Sure we're not exactly lying because we don't mention editing
>> > explicitly, but I still think that people reading this announcement would
>> > expect editing capabilities and think something is broken when they start
>> > Calligra Active and find no way to create or edit documents. Calligra
>> > Active's badly designed home screen will only add to the confusion
>> > because it looks as if you could create documents there, but you can't.
>> >
>> > I'm not a marketer so I don't know how much "over-hyping" is adequate,
>>
>> none.
>
> Okay, so we're on the same page here :)
>
>> Re: featuring Calligra Active in the announcement...
>> The announcement certainly gave me the impression that it is a full
>> office suite..."Calligra Active provides wordprocessor, spreadsheet,
>> presentation and several other applications geared towards
>> professional, as well as personal use."
>>
>> Just now playing with the latest version...Calligra Words, Sheets and
>> Stage are in the launcher. As are Calligra Active and Mobile. Someone
>> who's familiar with the use of these in Plasma Active should say how
>> well they work with only a touch interface.
>
> Erm, they are not supposed to be in the launcher, only Calligra Active is (and
> that's the case in the Mer image). Only Calligra Active works well on Plasma
> Active, the others are the desktop versions which are understandably horrible
> on a touchscreen.

By "in the Launcher" I mean that I can enter "Calligra" in the search
box and those applications appear. So given the way that civilians
will interact with the tablet, it is probably not a concern.

Carl


>
>> No hype please. Not sometime down the road. What can they do now for users?
>>
>> We should under-promise and over-deliver.
>>
>> >  I just fear disappointed and angry users who don't get what they were
>> > promised.
>> > PA3 is awesome with what it actually _can_ do, I don't think we should
>> > advertise things it can't.
>>
>> This is correct. I agree completely, although I haven't explored all
>> the possibilities so I don't know the extent of awesome. I have not
>> used the Calligra apps for more than just messing around. And Calligra
>> Active for viewing documents works well.
>> Let me know what the scoop is and I'll rewrite it.
>
> Calligra Active is for viewing text documents, spreadsheets and presentations
> (and in the case of presentations, actually presenting them ;) ). It offers
> very good compatibility with MS Office as well as Open Document files which is
> rare in the mobile space. There are no editing or creation features at all,
> however.
> The desktop Calligra applications should not show up in the launcher on
> Active, they're only installed to serve as engines for Calligra Active and are
> not supposed to be used in Plasma Active.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Thomas
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