marked up webwords for PA3

Thomas Pfeiffer colomar at autistici.org
Fri Oct 5 21:06:55 UTC 2012


On Thursday 04 October 2012 18:06:22 Carl Symons wrote:
> > - The webwords have a whole paragraph on recommendations, which are simply
> > not included in PA3. Tracking of user behavior is there, but it currently
> > isn't used anywhere (or is there a place I missed) because the
> > recommendation overlay was deactivated. People looking for the
> > recommendations would be in for a big disappointment, so I'm not sure if
> > we should mention them.
> It should come out. However, I just looked at the PA3 RC. It has the
> recommendation tab, but perhaps it doesn't really do anything. If that
> is the case, then the write up should be changed.

I see, looks like it's made its way in again. Iirc it was removed before 
because it didn't work as expected yet.
@Ivan: Do the recommendations work as expected by now or were they put back in 
by accident?

> > - I still don't think we should market Calligra Active in the announcement
> > like it's a full-fledged office suite. It is an office document _viewer_
> > (with great compatibility for all kinds of office formats), no more, no
> > less. Sure we're not exactly lying because we don't mention editing
> > explicitly, but I still think that people reading this announcement would
> > expect editing capabilities and think something is broken when they start
> > Calligra Active and find no way to create or edit documents. Calligra
> > Active's badly designed home screen will only add to the confusion
> > because it looks as if you could create documents there, but you can't.
> > 
> > I'm not a marketer so I don't know how much "over-hyping" is adequate,
> 
> none.

Okay, so we're on the same page here :)

> Re: featuring Calligra Active in the announcement...
> The announcement certainly gave me the impression that it is a full
> office suite..."Calligra Active provides wordprocessor, spreadsheet,
> presentation and several other applications geared towards
> professional, as well as personal use."
> 
> Just now playing with the latest version...Calligra Words, Sheets and
> Stage are in the launcher. As are Calligra Active and Mobile. Someone
> who's familiar with the use of these in Plasma Active should say how
> well they work with only a touch interface.

Erm, they are not supposed to be in the launcher, only Calligra Active is (and 
that's the case in the Mer image). Only Calligra Active works well on Plasma 
Active, the others are the desktop versions which are understandably horrible 
on a touchscreen. 
 
> No hype please. Not sometime down the road. What can they do now for users?
> 
> We should under-promise and over-deliver.
> 
> >  I just fear disappointed and angry users who don't get what they were 
> > promised.
> > PA3 is awesome with what it actually _can_ do, I don't think we should
> > advertise things it can't.
> 
> This is correct. I agree completely, although I haven't explored all
> the possibilities so I don't know the extent of awesome. I have not
> used the Calligra apps for more than just messing around. And Calligra
> Active for viewing documents works well.
> Let me know what the scoop is and I'll rewrite it.

Calligra Active is for viewing text documents, spreadsheets and presentations 
(and in the case of presentations, actually presenting them ;) ). It offers 
very good compatibility with MS Office as well as Open Document files which is 
rare in the mobile space. There are no editing or creation features at all, 
however.
The desktop Calligra applications should not show up in the launcher on 
Active, they're only installed to serve as engines for Calligra Active and are 
not supposed to be used in Plasma Active.

I hope that helps.

Thomas


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