KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/battery

Aaron J. Seigo aseigo at kde.org
Sat Jun 6 17:07:42 CEST 2009


here's my one and only email in this thread ...

On Saturday 06 June 2009, David Nolden wrote:
> Am Samstag 06 Juni 2009 03:02:37 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> > I've disabled this feature for now since it doesn't work well enough
> > in a lot of cases. For those that really can't live without that
> > information, you can still enable it in the config, add a line such
> > as:
>
> Btw. please disable desktop composition completely, and make it opt-in for
> geeks using a config-file. "It doesn't work well enough in a lot of cases."

Dave, i respect your work in KDE. the stuff you've done in, for instance, 
KDevelop is amazing and i really appreciate it.

i also respect that your intentions are all in the right place here: you want 
KDE to rock in every aspect.

you have a very definite idea of what that means, and for Plasma it seems to 
be defined by what KDE 3 did. understandable. or maybe you have some other 
base for your perspective. regardless, it differs from the design goals i 
have, and which are shared with most others working on Plasma day in and day 
out.

we have worked on plasma for a couple years, some of us longer. it has come 
further forward than pretty much anyone said it would, and it's because of not 
only our efforts but also the philosophy in design that guides our hands.

that philosophy does change and morph over time, but it's done collectively 
and without coercing each other. we have had others who came along in the past 
who tried to just commit whatever they wanted, sometimes trying to "sneak in" 
their pet ideas that had been discussed and rejected on this list. we not only 
reverted those commits, but we then asked them to apply their efforts 
elsewhere in KDE.

we work together as a team here.

we don't always see eye to eye (sebas and i don't agree on this matter, fair 
enough) and we sometimes get things wrong in implementation or design, but we 
have respect for each other and try our best not to bait each other with 
rediculous or sarcastic comments like "well, if you're going to remove that 
feature, then remove composite support to!" in the process. and generally, we 
make stuff that rocks harder than any other similar application out there.

now, you've shown that you have a few pet peeves and seem unwilling to work on 
them in a way that actually fits with our agenda. if i were to do the same in 
kdevelop, i doubt my interference would be welcome.

i refuse to let plasma become an unhappy place of arguments. we will have them 
from time to time, because all groups of friends and families do, but they can 
not become the primary mode of communication. we all spend too much of our 
time and invest too much of our heart into this project for that to become the 
case.

so, Dave, i'm going to ask you and ask you only once: please join the team or 
don't work on plasma. we don't have to agree on everything, but we have to 
work together on everything. we don't have to always be nice and civil, but we 
have to be nice and civil most of the time. if you can't manage that, kdevelop 
certainly needs your time and effort.


as for the rest of this thread, i think it's a useful exercise for us to go 
through to find what our agreements and shared values are. but i don't see a 
need to continue arguing about it, especially since there are some people 
involved who are employing the "i will argue it until i get _MY_ way" tactic.

i have to go spend the day up at my son's school volunteering on a 
construction project, but i'd rather be here hacking with you people. i hope 
everyone else can get back to enjoying making plasma rock, and thanks to 
everyone who kept a level head and their patience about them in the process.

peace and love ...

-- 
Aaron J. Seigo
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