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Thu Dec 24 22:05:34 GMT 2020

On 12/24/20 2:33 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote:
> Thank for the answer, however belated.
> Unfortunately, the historical answer wasn't what I was hoping for.
> As a user, I am given a number of ways to do the same thing, I want to 
> know when to do one of them. Which is the best when I have window X 
> already open etc.
> Otherwise, the wizard and one other option is all that is needed.
One issue is that different users have different preferences for how to 
do things.  With experience, they also know how to poke around an 
interface looking for what is available.  If they are looking through 
menus, then having a keyboard shortcut may be discovered that way, but 
would probably not have been an obvious thing to try first.  Some may 
expect all "important" tasks to be available through a button on a task 
bar.  Others prefer to read written instructions, in which case only one 
way to do something might be enough.  So - you can certainly write 
documentation for a naive user starting with only one way to do 
something, and later introduce options, and how to enable/disable them 
through the UI.  However, you can be sure you will eventually run into a 
user who asks why you gave THAT WAY to do something since THIS OTHER WAY 
is so much obviously better.
> The idea is that you don't need to remove the other options from the 
> interface but rather they can be added by the use if they so desire. 
> Once there is a shortcut available then the wizard can be for the 
> first start, the menu item is sorta a default, as would be the right 
> click context menu in the Accounts view pane. The rest a user can add 
> as a customization.  If there is a task based reason for the other New 
> Account options, it is another thing altogether.
> As far as a shortcut, Cntrl N is taken, so maybe Alt +N
But why Alt-N instead of Shift-N or Meta-N or any other combination.  
All are essentially arbitrary - so is there really much difference 
between showing the user the menu selection, and then how to add a 
keyboard shortcut of his own choice?
> BTW. I am in no way telling anyone how to develop the app, I just need 
> to know how to write procedures, the help end users.
What I keep trying to point out is that no matter how you write it, in 
order to keep it simple, you have to make choices, and just have to 
accept that those choices make the doc better for some users, but not so 
good for some others.  Hopefully you can find the one that will help the 
most, but I still consider it essentially an arbitrary guess, perhaps 
guided by some amount of surveying and study, but still essentially 
arbitrary.
> lol,
> Aaron
Jack
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 04:34:49 AM EST, Thomas Baumgart 
> <thb at net-bembel.de> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> On Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 05:10:39 CET Aaron Mehl wrote:
>
> > Hi,My name is Aaron, I am working on a Users Guide and some 
> questions popped up.First, there are many ways to open the New 
> Accounts wizard.Why and when would a use  choose each of these 
> different way to open the wizard?Here is a list, but it may not be 
> complete:
> >
> >    - From the toolbar the new icon and the New Account icon
> >    - From the menubar>File>New and Account>New account
> >    - In the Account View Pane Right Click>New Account
> >    - When you run KMyMoney for the first time
> > Also, I see that if I click New Institution, I don't get the New 
> Account wizard, but a separate window for institutions. Why isn't this 
> true for New Accounts. Finally why isn't there a default keybinding 
> for adding a new account?
>
>
> This mail is lingering here for some time, so time to send an answer.
>
> Most of your questions can be answered with 'historical growth of the 
> application'. But seriously, the different places an action can be 
> started is common among other (KDE) applications. You can turn off the 
> menu and the toolbar at the top and still be able to access the 
> 'create new account' action via the accounts view and context menu.
>
> You mention File/New and Account/New and their resp. icons in the 
> toolbar: those are two different animals. It is just that as part of 
> the workflow for creating a new file the user is asked if he wants to 
> create an account right away. The other one will create additional 
> accounts. When you run KMyMoney for the first time, it starts the 
> File/New workflow automatically.
>
> For the new institution there was no need for a wizard, so nobody 
> developed one. I am not sure about the fact, that we had a similar 
> single dialog function for creating an account in the past. If we did, 
> it was removed because of duplicate functionality and people were in 
> favor of the wizard.
>
> About the keybinding: good question. I don't know. Propose one and we 
> can try to implement it.
>
>
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> Regards
>
> Thomas Baumgart
>
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