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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/24/20 2:33 PM, Aaron Mehl wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thank for the answer, however
belated.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Unfortunately, the historical
answer wasn't what I was hoping for.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">As a user, I am given a
number of ways to do the same thing, I want to know when to do
one of them. Which is the best when I have window X already
open etc.</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Otherwise, the wizard and one
other option is all that is needed.</div>
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One issue is that different users have different preferences for how
to do things. With experience, they also know how to poke around an
interface looking for what is available. If they are looking
through menus, then having a keyboard shortcut may be discovered
that way, but would probably not have been an obvious thing to try
first. Some may expect all "important" tasks to be available
through a button on a task bar. Others prefer to read written
instructions, in which case only one way to do something might be
enough. So - you can certainly write documentation for a naive user
starting with only one way to do something, and later introduce
options, and how to enable/disable them through the UI. However,
you can be sure you will eventually run into a user who asks why you
gave THAT WAY to do something since THIS OTHER WAY is so much
obviously better.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The idea is that you don't
need to remove the other options from the interface but rather
they can be added by the use if they so desire. Once there is
a shortcut available then the wizard can be for the first
start, the menu item is sorta a default, as would be the right
click context menu in the Accounts view pane. The rest a user
can add as a customization. If there is a task based reason
for the other New Account options, it is another thing
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">As far as a shortcut, Cntrl N
is taken, so maybe Alt +N</div>
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But why Alt-N instead of Shift-N or Meta-N or any other
combination. All are essentially arbitrary - so is there really
much difference between showing the user the menu selection, and
then how to add a keyboard shortcut of his own choice? <br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">BTW. I am in no way telling
anyone how to develop the app, I just need to know how to
write procedures, the help end users.</div>
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What I keep trying to point out is that no matter how you write it,
in order to keep it simple, you have to make choices, and just have
to accept that those choices make the doc better for some users, but
not so good for some others. Hopefully you can find the one that
will help the most, but I still consider it essentially an arbitrary
guess, perhaps guided by some amount of surveying and study, but
still essentially arbitrary.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">lol,</div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Aaron</div>
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<div> On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 04:34:49 AM EST, Thomas
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On Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 05:10:39 CET Aaron Mehl
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> Hi,My name is Aaron, I am working on a Users Guide
and some questions popped up.First, there are many ways
to open the New Accounts wizard.Why and when would a
use choose each of these different way to open the
wizard?Here is a list, but it may not be complete:<br
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> - From the toolbar the new icon and the New
Account icon<br clear="none">
> - From the menubar>File>New and
Account>New account<br clear="none">
> - In the Account View Pane Right Click>New
Account<br clear="none">
> - When you run KMyMoney for the first time<br
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> Also, I see that if I click New Institution, I
don't get the New Account wizard, but a separate window
for institutions. Why isn't this true for New Accounts.
Finally why isn't there a default keybinding for adding
a new account?</div>
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Most of your questions can be answered with 'historical
growth of the application'. But seriously, the different
places an action can be started is common among other
(KDE) applications. You can turn off the menu and the
toolbar at the top and still be able to access the 'create
new account' action via the accounts view and context
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You mention File/New and Account/New and their resp. icons
in the toolbar: those are two different animals. It is
just that as part of the workflow for creating a new file
the user is asked if he wants to create an account right
away. The other one will create additional accounts. When
you run KMyMoney for the first time, it starts the
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For the new institution there was no need for a wizard, so
nobody developed one. I am not sure about the fact, that
we had a similar single dialog function for creating an
account in the past. If we did, it was removed because of
duplicate functionality and people were in favor of the
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About the keybinding: good question. I don't know. Propose
one and we can try to implement it.<br clear="none">
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