[WikiToLearn Editors] [WikiToLearn] Draft for the oraganization of the community

Fri Mar 25 13:48:14 UTC 2016

Actually the idea is a bit more complete: the new user can use his/her
personal page to write about himself/herself in order to get introduced in
the community; anyway the idea is to use the personal page directly, once
the user register for the first time, to create new contents/notes (e.g.: a
direct button is given to the new user and pressing it he/she can start
writing content in the ve, maybe with few hints guiding his/her first
editing experience).

Anybody can use his/her own personal (user) page to write his/her notes,
but as an editor I believe that before uploading your notes on the correct
section you have to review and integrate them: that's why we thought about
the user page as the most suitable place to take notes directly in
mediawiki, for example during your lessons, and only when you are satisfied
about what you have produced you can move these pages in the most suitable
section in the site.

Be careful: this idea doesn't prevent the possibility from writing contents
directly on the correct page (this can be done, for example, if you already
have some complete notes that you want to upload), though is a perfect way
to introduce editors to the visual editor and the media wiki language and
to allow more expert editors to write directly in mw without using a
.tex/.doc file that should be converted into mw.

More or less this feature of the user personal page is equivalent to the
Template:WorkInProgress proposed by Christian, but imho our idea has to be
preferred since allows new users to start their editing experience without
having any particular knowledge of templates.

Contents on the user personal page actually are not hidden from the rest of
the community for two reasons:

   - Anybody would have the possibility of visiting your personal page and
   see what are you writing;
   - The idea is to store incomplete/unreviewed notes here just because you
   are not satisfied with their content, but once you are these pages are
   ready to be moved to their section.

According to this interpretation there is no limit in getting new contents
(using Work in progress template it would be the same) and new users are
not prevented from register themself and edit already existing pages (being
these on you personal page or on the correct section/argument).

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 2:46 PM, M Bona <matteo9496 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually the idea is a bit more complete: the new user can use his/her
> personal page to write about himself/herself in order to get introduced in
> the community; anyway the idea is to use the personal page directly, once
> the user register for the first time, to create new contents/notes (e.g.: a
> direct button is given to the new user and pressing it he/she can start
> writing content in the ve, maybe with few hints guiding his/her first
> editing experience).
>
> Anybody can use his/her own personal (user) page to write his/her notes,
> but as an editor I believe that before uploading your notes on the correct
> section you have to review and integrate them: that's why we thought about
> the user page as the most suitable place to take notes directly in
> mediawiki, for example during your lessons, and only when you are satisfied
> about what you have produced you can move these pages in the most suitable
> section in the site.
>
> Be careful: this idea doesn't prevent the possibility from writing
> contents directly on the correct page (this can be done, for example, if
> you already have some complete notes that you want to upload), though is a
> perfect way to introduce editors to the visual editor and the media wiki
> language and to allow more expert editors to write directly in mw without
> using a .tex/.doc file that should be converted into mw.
>
> More or less this feature of the user personal page is equivalent to the
> Template:WorkInProgress proposed by Christian, but imho our idea has to be
> preferred since allows new users to start their editing experience without
> having any particular knowledge of templates.
>
> Contents on the user personal page actually are not hidden from the rest
> of the community for two reasons:
>
>    - Anybody would have the possibility of visiting your personal page
>    and see what are you writing;
>    - The idea is to store incomplete/unreviewed notes here just because
>    you are not satisfied with their content, but once you are these pages are
>    ready to be moved to their section.
>
> According to this interpretation there is no limit in getting new contents
> (using Work in progress template it would be the same) and new users are
> not prevented from register themself and edit already existing pages (being
> these on you personal page or on the correct section/argument).
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Cristian Baldi <bld.cris.96 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think it would be a nice idea to encourage the user to write about
>> himself and introduce himself to the community on his personal page, in
>> this way we allow him to try the editor, get himself familiar with the wiki
>> environment and at the same time build some kind of personal connection.
>>
>> We could also tell new user to start writing content on his personal page
>> but I don't like it very much. The cool thing about wikis is that whatever
>> you write is available to everyone the moment you press "Save", and it is
>> not hidden in your user page and you will need to manually move it later
>> (that's a boring thing to do) .
>>
>>  At the same time I also think that we can't openly publish
>> broken/testing stuff, but that's what the "Work in progress" template on
>> WIkipedia is for.
>>
>> I also think that, the more content we get, most of the users will
>> register to edit already existing pages, not to create new pages from
>> scratch.
>>
>> Maybe I didn't completely understand what you meant,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>> 2016-03-25 12:44 GMT+01:00 M Bona <matteo9496 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> The idea is not to limit the new user to write contents only on his/her
>>> personal page but to give him/her the possibility to start writing contents
>>> as soon as possible: doing so the new user is encouraged to start his/her
>>> editing activity once he register on the site (You register and you are
>>> immediately given the opportunity of an editing experience).
>>> The idea of the personal page used to write new contents has two main
>>> features: the first one, as I've already said, is to encourage the new
>>> editor (then he/she can move these pages on the correct sections by his/her
>>> own, or thanks to the help of an admin), anyway the new editor can write
>>> contents directly on sections; the second important feature of the user
>>> page, used as content page, is to encourage editors to write directly on
>>> VisualEditor (mediawiki): doing so, maybe thanks to a local version of the
>>> editing environment, one can write pages directly on his/her page as if
>>> these pages were personal notes and move them to correct sections when they
>>> are complete.
>>> We do intend to get editors closer to our editing enviroment and to the
>>> mediwiki language: doing so you can write your notes directly where they
>>> will be published, without any (eg. latex->mediawiki) conversion (and
>>> problems related to it) needed.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Gianluca Rigoletti <
>>> gianluca.rigoletti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really nice structure!
>>>> It seems clear to me. I understand that there are permanent working
>>>> group and while templates and importing content seems well defined, I
>>>> don't understand perfectly what do the others two group do. Maybe 2/3
>>>> lines to describe their function?
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> 2016-03-24 18:50 GMT+01:00 Riccardo Iaconelli <riccardo at kde.org>:
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > recently, we've been talking a lot about how to create a structure in
>>>> > the community that can allow us to scale up the project so that many
>>>> > people can work at the same time. Attached you find the first draft of
>>>> > the organization model produced by the Organization Working Group.
>>>> > This mostly applies to the editors community, as the other groups
>>>> > (e.g. tech) can be seen as permanent "working groups", within this
>>>> > structure.
>>>> >
>>>> > This document is of fundamental importance for the future development
>>>> > of WikiToLearn. I'd like to ask everyone subscribed to please review
>>>> > and comment on any issues or anything which is not clear, so that we
>>>> > can iron out all the rough edges. I cannot stress enough how important
>>>> > this is.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bye,
>>>> > -Riccardo (in the name of the Organization Working Group)
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