First Impressions on VisualEditor

[Cristian Baldi]

Hey Vincenzo,
Thanks for the reports
The tech team is aware of these issues and trying to find the best
solutions.

For your first issue we have something figured out and you can expect it in
the next weeks I guess. This problem is also reported by people who write
on Wikipedia and they suggest fix was to wait for the visual editor
developers to make the thing work. Since we can't wait for them we decided
to go this way:template content will be treated as normal text and you will
have to insert a StartTheorem and EndTheorem template instead of a single
Theorem template. This will allow you to write the content of the template
as normal text right inside visual editor,thus displaying math and rich
text. There will be guides and tutorials on this, I hope.

About the second issue we have been fighting with it for something like 5
months and still trying to find the best way out. There is not much I can
say about it, I haven't worked on it enough. We are also very stressed
about this since math is a pretty important feature.

Shouldn't we talk in Italian since this is the it mailing list? I don't
really care but some people might.

Cristian

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 23:15 Vincenzo Eduardo Padulano <
vincenzo.e.padulano at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody!
> Yesterday was first day of school here at Unimib, so I took the chance to
> restart my editing work! I just wanted to point out some first opinions on
> the usability of the new features.
>
> First of all, I created a private course under my userpage, link is here
> http://it.wikitolearn.org/Utente:V.e.padulano/meccanica_quantistica_rapuano_2016_2017
> In order to create the course, Ale Tundo gave me a link to the "course
> editor" feature. Besides the thing that it's not yet implemented directly
> on the site, I found CourseEditor very intuitive and it just very well
> fulfilled its scope.
>
> About the actual content creation, I find that now is way simpler than
> before, so I won't bother you with the many pros, instead I just wanted to
> point out a few points that make it quite difficult at the moment:
>
> _ With the many templates that we are using, although they make the layout
> of the text prettier and cleaner, there's a problem when I try to modify
> some text . Precisely you cannot modify the text inside a template through
> the VisualEditor interface, instead the template is treated just like a
> <math> environment and if you want to modify something inside it, text or
> math, you have to do it through wikitext. This makes the experience of
> editing some pages wich make extensive use of templates very unpleaseant.
>
> _the new <math> environment is very cool, but it takes way too long to
> render formulas. I don't know anything that's behind it, but still I find
> myself saving the page, reloading it and pressing again the "modify"
> button, just to look at the last formula I wrote. This is also very
> difficult to live with.
>
> Hope my words will be useful in some way,
> Vincenzo Eduardo Padulano
>
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