[RkWard-devel] RKWard 0.4.5pre1, 0.4.5 release process

[SJR]

Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 12:03 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> On Thursday 11 January 2007 19:25, SJR wrote:
> > Maybe you could use
> > run.png (/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/ on my system)
> > for "Run current line" and
> > kleansweep.png for "Flush Output" (icon from kleansweep
> > (http://linux.bydg.org/~yogin/#))
> >
> > (see attachment)
>
> For now, I went for player_end.png (icons/[...]/actions) for "Run current
> line". It does not visualize what exactly to expect any better than
> run.png, but it has a common theme with the other run actions.

I think this is a good decision. Many people will recognize it and the tool 
tip will reveal what it exactly does.

> Or do you 
> think, it's too confusingly similar?

Definitely not. I can see a logic behind the symbols. The first triangle (Run 
current line) is limited by a column therefore it seem to stop somewhere. And 
indeed it just runs a single line. But I would switch the next two. "Run all" 
has two triangles which would suggest "run from on to another" (but that 
isn't the case) and "Run selection" has only one  triangle which would 
suggest me that all is run with no stop. I guess you get what I mean. Usually 
I try to give symbols a meaning that's maybe why I bother you with such 
stupid things. ;) (Though that's something quite simple many people seem to 
care about. For Example there was an attempt for KWord to give each function 
a similarity to MS Word. Odd but true.).

> Anyway, in the long run, we probably 
> want custom items for the run actions. Any pixel artists on this list?

I allways wanted to. But I think this is getting to much for me. We will need 
more help for example from KDE artists (I'll write them an E-Mail for 
suggestions). Not to much is needed here since it's still a scientific tool 
which doesn't need eyecandy but it must be usefull. Anyway, we should follow 
other apps and prefere svg instead of png where possible.
We need somebody who looks patiently through the stuff available from 
kde-look.org, GNOME-Look.org, Xfce-Look.org and http://www.openclipart.org/ . 
I will try to if I find time and a mood of diligence. More Ideas out there?

>
> For "Flush Output" I now went with editdelete.png instead of editclear.png.
> It looks more dangerous, and is probably easier to recognize. I didn't go
> for kleansweep.png, since I think it is not good enough in this context to
> justify including another image file in the release (kleansweep.png can not
> be assumed to be installed on all systems, whereas, I think, editdelete.png
> can).

True. Consent.

>
> > It's not okay. It's perfect! One click and my Output is "clean" again. I
> > like it and I think users will like it that way too.
>
> Well, I'm not a big user of toolbar icons, that's why it never really
> occured to me to add it there, before.

Hey it's a GUI! ;)

> Now that I thought about it, I 
> reviewed some of the other parts, and added a bunch of already existing
> actions to the menubar, toolbar, or both.

The advantage of doing so is that functionality is obvious to the user. It's 
likely that user rather "push the button" than go trough the menus or search 
for short cuts.
Did I say Short cuts? Hey that's an important word! I'll try to add a "Short 
Cuts" section to the RKWard help. There aren't to much right now but this 
should be done.

> Since these changes do not change 
> any translatable strings, and really just mean simple modifications to the
> ui.rc files, I think I'll include them in 0.4.5 despite the freeze,
> considering this as a sort of bug-fixes.
>

Consent

> > > > BTW, what is the reason for having "Configure Pakages" in Workspace
> > > > besides Settings?
> > >
> > > Actually, I don't remember. I've stumbled across this before, but could
> > > not make up my mind, which one to keep, and which one to throw away.
> > > Opinions?
> >
> > That from Workspace. As a user I would search in Settings since I can set
> > or change there anything.
>
> Ok, I'll wait for another short while for objections, then remove it. Doing
> it for 0.4.5 probably is a good idea, again, as we will have to put out a
> note about several menu-changes anyway.
>

Consent

> > Another issue came to my mind (playing again as a user/R-beginner) . One
> > can install and load/unload packages, yes? But remove? Where is the
> > remove button? ;)
>
> In the TODO list, of course, that's where you'll find mostly everything ;-)
>

Good

> Regards
> Thomas

Regards
Stefan