[RkWard-devel] marketing

Fri Feb 3 13:33:29 UTC 2006

Hi all,

it seems a good idea to announce it. I began yesterday to search in the web
for sites which provide information about "more or less free" statistical
software. So far I found only two of them
(http://freestatistics.altervista.org/index.php &
http://members.aol.com/johnp71/javasta2.html) to which I sent an e-mail. One
was rejected and from the other I have no reply so far. Anyway, if you know
others then tell me. Moreover I wrote a few sentences in the OOo forum
(http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=31215) in the hope some
active members have interest or suggest RKWard when somebody asks for.
About the documentation can I say barely anything since I didn't have a
close look on it (right now I just attempt to write a plugin for a boxplot
and histogram, which is quite difficult for me as I'm not a programmer).
An other idea is to write people like e.g. John Fox (Rcmdr) an e-mail and to
please them for support. He for example teaches at an university statistics
and maybe some of his students would like to ... . I guess you know what my
idea behind is.
To the life CD. If you consider to use quantian (which is a Knoppix
derivative) please have a look at Kanotix. Though Kanotix aims to be a
desktop distribution it can also be used for such purposes. The advantage of
Kanotix is it's superior hardware detection (my main reason), the installer,
scripts for ati- and Nvidea graphic cards, ..., an active forum and so on.
(It's just a suggestion! I know that you know what's the best.)
We can work on the Wiki, but before I would like to know what has to be done
exactly. So Yves, lets stay in touch. Unfortunately I have only seldom
access to the internet (mostly at work) otherwise we could have a talk via
irc (I saw this from other projects like G.I.M.P).
Moreover I could do a translation into German. But right know I have no Idea
how to do this (obviously with KBabelfish).

Something different.
1) Yesterday evening I had the idea to include in the "Help" menu to option
to fire up the R html help. I thought it can be done as for the plug-ins
(right?). In R it's simple (“R; help.start()” -> the help will be opened in
a sensitive browser)) but where do I find the file to enter this in RKWard.
2) And how do I include a package when it is needed for a certain task. For
example in R it is "require(gplots)" if one wants to create a bandplot.
3) When Qt4 comes is then a port of RKWard to other OS then Linux possible?
I'm just curios.
4) For inexperienced "developers" like me I would like to see the
recommendation on the developer page to use KXML-Editor and Quanta because
both of them (or KXML-Editor as plugin for Quanta). Both ease the start
enormously.

Cheers!
Stefan.

Please forgive me if some of my ideas are shortcomings. Maybe I'm just to
enthusiastic at the moment ("I want it all, I want it all and I want it now
[Queen ;) ]).

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Jacolin Yves <yjacolin at gloobe.org>
> An: rkward-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [RkWard-devel] marketing
> Datum: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:32:47 +0100
> 
> Hello,
> I am interesting as well to work on this problem. Me and Pierre (Pecoh)
> talked 
> about that a few monthes ago, before I joined the project. We planed to
> write 
> some news in linuxfr.org and other website after a big release of RKWard
> and 
> some new documentation.
> Perhaps we can a working group about this on the wiki ?
> Furthemore, I find a live-CD called quantian that propose RKWard (I forget
> which version is installed).
> 
> So as soon as I will get more time, I will happy to help you!
> 
> Yves
> Le Mercredi 1 Février 2006 17:24, Thomas Friedrichsmeier a écrit :
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > > I just figured out what Rkward is "missing". To put it into a single
> > > word: "Marketing". When I searched for a GUI to R by google I found
> > > everything (like Kstat http://www.kstat.org/ , which is no longer /
> not
> > > yet developed) but not Rkward (which is more than usable). I refined
> my
> > > search for Linux, KDE, ... and still found almost nothing. But I knew
> > > form r-project.org that there is Rkward. So my suggestion is to
> announce
> > > the project on common known places in the web. Moreover one might
> > > “improve” the hits in google (there are known strategies how to do
> this).
> > > What is the sense of my idea? Manly to attract developers, user and
> > > people who do quality testing. Therefore is my suggestion that I (if
> you
> > > consent) try to make Rkward more public. What do you think?
> >
> > you are quite right, RKWard could do with better marketing. In fact this
> is
> > already on the list of "open tasks" waiting for someone to start working
> on
> > (bottom of the page):
> > http://rkward.sourceforge.net/devel.php?content=open_tasks
> >
> > Personally, I'm just not any good at marketing. I'm aware of the
> problem,
> > but I'd very much like to delegate it to somebody more competent.
> >
> > Announcements on known places in the web: Go for it, you don't have to
> ask
> > permission. Short descriptions of rkward are available on the website,
> or
> > on freshmeat and kde-apps.org. If you think those descriptions should be
> > changed/improved, your suggestions are welcome. Some screenshots can be
> > found at the same locations, but most likely better ones could be
> created
> > with relatively little effort.
> >
> > Improving search-engine visibility: Certainly room for improvement,
> here.
> > You might want to team up with Yves Jacolin (yjacolin AT gloobe DOT org)
> to
> > optimize keywords and such on the website.
> >
> > Your efforts are highly welcome!
> >
> > Thomas
> 
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