Suggestion to drop ktp from KDE Gear

[Albert Astals Cid]

El divendres, 23 de juny de 2023, a les 0:52:46 (CEST), Heiko Becker va 
escriure:
> On Wednesday, 21 June 2023 21:48:16 CEST, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El dimecres, 21 de juny de 2023, a les 18:35:28 (CEST), Jonathan Riddell
> > va
> > 
> > escriure:
> >> I'd like to suggest dropping ktp packages from the next KDE Gear release.
> >> Telepathy upstream is unmaintained, KTP is unmaintained and discussions
> >> with one of the original authors says it should be dropped.
> >> 
> >> Modules we release are:
> >> ktp-accounts-kcm ...
> > 
> > Is it working? Unless it isn't i don't see why we need to drop it.
> 
> Not very pleasantly...
> 
> I tried:
> 
> - ICQ: doesn't work because pidgin remove support for it in 2021 because
> the protocol changed in 2017
> - AIM: I never had an account there, but the situation is exactly the same
> as for ICQ
> - Skype: Doesn't work, but probably due to me missing
> https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin
> - Telegram: Way too shady for me to give them my phone number and I'm
> missing telepathy-morse anyway, so no idea if it works
> - Office/Bonjour: These are a tad weird, they don't error out, but the UI
> is so basic that I'm not sure how to do something with it
> - Google Hangouts: Asks to sign in with google, but that errors out after
> entering an email, maybe because it was shut down on November 1, 2022
> - Yahoo: piding has removed it in 2016, because they totally changed the
> protocol after August 5th, 2016
> - XMPP seems to somewhat work and I could enter a chat room
> - GG (former Gadu-Gadu): Can't register "The ability to create a new
> account has been blocked."

Thanks for the detailed analysis.

It seems XMPP is the only thing that seems to work.

Given that kopete seems to also support XMPP I woud not be against removing 
ktp for 23.08 given the big support for removing it.

Hoping that existing users of KTP can keep it installed without their 
distributions forcing them to remove it.

If someone objects to the removal please make it clear before July 16th.

Cheers,
  Albert


> 
> So, at the very least we should remove some accounts, where the respective
> service doesn't exist/work anymore and remove ktp-call-ui, which depends on
> qt-gstreamer which is realldy dead and archived upstream and a pain to keep
> building (no idea how to test it...).
> 
> But given the above, the fact that nobody seemed to care enough to notice
> that, the mentioned maintenance state of the telepathy stack and the
> apparently very low number of people willing to invest time on its
> maitenance on our side, I'm in favour of just dropping it.
> 
> Regards,
> Heiko