Release Cycle

[Albert Astals Cid]

El Divendres, 23 d'agost de 2013, a les 08:49:19, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> On Thursday 22 August 2013 23:35:49 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El Dijous, 22 d'agost de 2013, a les 08:07:22, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> > > On Tuesday 20 August 2013 22:40:29 Mark wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org>
> 
> wrote:
> > > > > El Dimarts, 20 d'agost de 2013, a les 01:54:48, Albert Astals Cid va
> > > 
> > > escriure:
> > > > >> El Dimarts, 20 d'agost de 2013, a les 01:17:18, Aaron J. Seigo va
> > > 
> > > escriure:
> > > > >> > On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 00:24:53 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > > >> > > El Dilluns, 19 d'agost de 2013, a les 22:18:26, Aaron J. Seigo
> > > > >> > > va
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> escriure:
> > > > >> > > > On Monday, August 19, 2013 22:14:26 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > There will be a 4.13? Most probably.
> > > > >> > > > > Will it be in 2014? For sure
> > > > >> > > > > Which month? Noone knows, you can probably guess it'll be
> > > > >> > > > > between
> > > > >> > > > > Q2
> > > > >> > > > > and
> > > > >> > > > > Q3
> > > > >> > > > > since Q1 would mean <= 3 months of development and Q4 would
> > > > >> > > > > mean
> > > > >> > > > > 
> > > > >> > > > > >=
> > > > >> > > > > 
> > > > >> > > > > 10
> > > > >> > > > > months.
> > > > >> > > > 
> > > > >> > > > unless we change the development cycle, which has not yet
> > > > >> > > > been
> > > > >> > > > done,
> > > > >> > > > which
> > > > >> > > > month will 4.13 be in?
> > > > >> > > 
> > > > >> > > Are you disagreeing with the 4.12 schedule?
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > No; however, on
> > > > >> > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.12_Release_Schedule it
> > > > >> > says
> > > > >> > “THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL YET” four times right at the top. I was
> > > > >> > under
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > impression that it was still being discussed and wasn’t ... you
> > > > >> > know
> > > > >> > ..
> > > > >> > official yet.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> It will be official when i get tired of waiting for people to
> > > > >> oppose
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> it.
> > > > >> If it makes you happier, I can declare it official now.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There you go.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Albert
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Well, not now, i'm going to sleep now.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>   Albert
> > > > >> 
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> > > > What you just did means that KDE SC 4.12 will in fact be a 5 month
> > > > release cycle. Earlier there was talk about outlining the future
> > > > releases. That blog/news item is probably going to have to take the
> > > > new 5 month cycle into account.
> > > 
> > > Yes. What about this then:
> > > =======
> > > KDE frameworks 5 preview 1 December 2013
> > > KDE frameworks 5 release 1st half 2014
> > > KDE Workspaces 4.11 is last release (LTS)
> > > KDE Workspaces 2.0 preview 1st half 2014
> > > KDE Workspaces 2.0 release 2nd half 2014
> > > KDE Applications 4.12 December 18 2013
> > > KDE Applications 4.13 June 2014
> > 
> > 4.12 and 4.13 will include kdelibs too (that have been almost-frozen for a
> > while but we still increase its version number on each release)
> > 
> > Also we don't have a date for 4.13.
> > 
> > It may well be May or July or even March or August since we haven't
> > started
> > planning for it and we can't do it since at Akademy it was agreed we'd do
> > a
> > shorter cycle (4.12) and then evaluate if that had worked or not, and to
> > evaluate it, we have to let 4.12 happen.
> > 
> > So please be very clear June is a guessed month from your side since the
> > Release Team has not started discussing about it.
> 
> "As with any schedule for a major technological transition, please note that
> the above is subject to change."

Are you saying 4.13 is "a major technological transition"?

> Is that enough? Please note, as Aaron already said, that it is better to
> have a plan now and change it later than to have no plan at all.

That is his opinion, not the one that seems the majority of people in this 
team have.

Saying we have no plan not true. Our plan is do 4.13 planning once 4.12 is out 
of of the door, like we have been doing for all the releases for a while.

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >   Albert
> >   
> > > As with any schedule for a major technological transition, please note
> > > that
> > > the above is subject to change.
> > > ==========
> > > 
> > > If this is OK then we'll communicate it this way.
> > > 
> > > > I like this new shorter cycle!
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