Fwd: Re: KSecrets

Anne-Marie Mahfouf annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr
Mon Apr 2 13:20:12 UTC 2012

On 04/02/2012 12:02 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> It is alpha state, it should not be included in SC 4.8.
I think I remember that when it was in review it was mentioned that it 
was in alpha state and that having it in production would make it test 
and fixed and improved. This did not happen.

I am in favor of removing it, as is Jonathan.

What do other people think?


> ----- Forwarded message from Valentin Rusu<kde at rusu.info>  -----
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:48:41 +0200
> From: Valentin Rusu<kde at rusu.info>
> To: Anne-Marie Mahfouf<annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr>
> Cc: annma at kde.org, jriddell at ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: KSecrets
> On 03/31/2012 12:04 PM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
>> Hi Valentin,
> Hello,
>> I am inquiring with this mail about the status of KSecrets. Several
>> questions were raised recently:
>> - Is KSecret used within KDE? If so, how?
> KSecrets is not yet used within KDE. It aims to replace KWallet and it
> was previously started by Michael Leupold who worked with Stef Walter
> from GNOME/keyring to define a freedesktop.org specification for a
> secrets storing service. GNOME/keyring already implements this
> interface, but I don't know if it's ready.
> When I attended the last Randa meeting, I started the implementation of
> a client library, initially designed for kdelibs. That library is ready
> to be used. In parallelel, I did a KWallet implementation based on that
> library. But when I attempted to include it in kdelibs, a veto came from
> Aaron because of ongoning KF5 work and fears to have evolution efforts
> dissipated. So a decision was made to postopone finishing this service
> and instead they invited me to contribute to KF5.
>> - Do you still maintain it?
> Well, I'm still considering myself as maintaining it, but since the fall
> of 2011 I became quite busy having less and less time for it. The KF5
> contribution let me even less time for it. However, I don't intend
> letting it down, that would be a pitty, as it'll provide some very
> useful features.
>> Distribution people are wondering how to use it and there is a request
>> to remove it from KDE SC for 4.8 and further releases.
> They are right for two reasons : lack of documentation and alpha state.
> However, it should go to people wiling to test it.
> When removing it from kdelibs, Aaron sugested a plug-in implementation
> for the KWallet code, and I think that further KDE SC releases should
> have that. With such a plug-in implementation, people may or may not
> choose to have ksecrets on their systems. This plug-in implementation is
> still TBD.
>> Can you enlighten us of its state?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Anne-Marie
>> ref:
>> http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/ksecretservice-devel/2012-March/thread.html
> Sorry for not noticing this thread before - right now KNode don't work
> on my system so I wasn't reading news these days. I'll reply to that
> thread later on.
> I wasn't aware about GNOME no more providing the secrets interface. I'll
> think about that.
> Valentin

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