the future of kdetoys
kde at hilefoks.org
Wed May 7 22:04:25 CEST 2008
I tried to get an overview about the current state of each application in
kdetoys and want to share my cognitions and also I want to make a proposal.
In short: I think the kdetoys module is dead.
Most of the 8 applications in kdetoys aren't in a good state.
this applet is dead. cmake doesn't build it since revision 755452 (Jan 1.)
because it is a kicker applet and kicker is dead. Also there is a plasma
based alternative in  called luna.
same as kmoon. But there is a plasma based alternative in  called
and the same here. But here I could't find an alternative plasmoid yet.
kweather is something curious. Some parts are ported (kweatherreport and
kweatherservice) but of course the kicker applet itself isn't ported and
isn't build since revision 755452 too. I'm not a regular user of this
application so I can't say if the ported parts are useable without the applet
itself - I do not think so. However, there is also a plasma based alternative
in  called weather.
kworldclock seems to be ok for the moment, but didn't have a maintainer. Also
Henry de Valence works on a new plasma based world clock (see ).
6. ktux and 7. amor
No maintainer and as far as I know nobody did work on this applications since
2006 (besides basic porting/i18n and similar tasks).
I ported this application to KDE4 and took care of it since then.
So kmoon, fifteenapplet and eyesapplet are dead and should be moved to
tags/unmaintained/4. I think this applies also to kweather.
I'm not sure how to handle ktux and amor. You can compile and run both.
However both didn't had a maintainer for a long time now and I personally
think their gui looks like a relict from kde 2.0.
When the new plasma based world clock is ready in time for kde 4.1 also
kworkdclock could be moved to tags/unmaintained/4. But I couldn't find the
plasma applet in the svn repository so I have no idea which state it
currently has. However - I wrote Henry a mail too, to point out this thread
to him. Maybe he can brief us about his work and further plans.
But now my real question/proposal:
I don't see any new application for kdetoys. All the shiny new toys (bball for
example) are plasma applets and therefor placed in extragear/plasma or
similar. All (possible) alternatives for the dead (or nearly dead)
applications in kdetoys are also plasma applets.
On the other hand the only applications with a maintainer in kdetoys
(kteatime) is not only a toy, it's also a utility.
So the final question is, should we possibly keep kdetoys with only
one "utility"? Or should we move this application(s) to kdeutils or extragear
and remove kdetoys entirely.
My personal proposal is to move kteatime (and possibly kworldclock) to
extragear and remove the kdetoys module from KDE (i.e. moving it to
What do you think?
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