Phonon backends, was Re: Goals? How are we doing?
kretz at kde.org
Mon May 5 21:14:51 CEST 2008
On Monday 05 May 2008, Sebastian Kuegler wrote:
> On Monday 05 May 2008 16:46:48 Allen Winter wrote:
> > Here's a list of our goals for 4.1.
> > Please provide a status update, if you can:
> > - GStreamer, Quicktime, DirectShow9 Phonon backends
> This is something seems not solved yet. From re-reading related
> discussions, I gather that the release strategy of Phonon looks like
> Matthias describes:
> On Saturday 29 March 2008 11:36:41 Matthias Kretz wrote:
> > On releases:
> > - libphonon gets released with KDE and Qt. KDE 4.0 shipped libphonon 4.0,
> > Qt 4.4 will ship libphonon 4.1, KDE 4.1 will ship libphonon 4.2
> > - phonon-xine will only get released with KDE
> > - phonon-gstreamer get's released with Qt, but I will look into whether
> > we want to release phonon-gstreamer with KDE 4.1, too
> > - phonon-qt/ds will only get released with Qt unless some KDE-Windows/Mac
> > developer wants to do something there
> Last signs on core-devel said that the phonon backends in kdereview
> required a newer Qt version than qt-copy at that point in time. I assume
> that as soon as 4.4 hits qt-copy that is solved (or maybe it even is
> already, status?). So those backends could then go with libphonon 4.2 into
> The question is wether we want to release the backends in kdebase or in
> The QuickTime7 backend won't build outside Qt, so we won't release it (and
> it probably doesn't make much sense to do so anyway). The question is how
> much sense it makes to have our own releases for those backends as well. It
> would be worth it when we want to add features and require them, and Qt
> cannot be updated in the meantime. Not sure about the DS9 backend.
> In any case, those backends have been in kdereview forever, which isn't
I'd like to move the gstreamer backend out of kdereview and into either
kdemultimedia or kdebase for KDE 4.1.
After 4.1, I think phonon and its backends will have to release independently
The GStreamer backend for 4.1 has an important difference to the one in Qt4.4:
It integrates correctly into the device preference settings - just like the
phonon xine backend does already.
I don't want to move any of the other backends as I don't work on those and
can't test them. As I don't know of any KDE people working on them or anybody
interested in getting them into a KDE 4.1 release I see no point in moving
them to a KDE module. They just need some open repository until Phonon has
found its right place.
Matthias Kretz (Germany) <><
MatthiasKretz at gmx.net, kretz at kde.org,
Matthias.Kretz at urz.uni-heidelberg.de
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