Konqueror questions.

Aaron J. Seigo aseigo at kde.org
Tue Sep 25 17:28:06 CEST 2007

On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Tom Albers wrote:
> At Tuesday 25 September 2007 15:17, you wrote:
> > as for Konqueror ... we have a file manager that is in good shape, we
> > need a power user browser and a web browser (konqi currently fills both
> > of those). should we hold up 4.0 for it? i don't know.
> Yep. It has been defined as a goal which needs to be completed in the beta
> period.
> > on a related note i finally got a chance to look through the page on
> > techbase and saw that kmail was noted as a showstopper. i wonder what
> > happened to the "people can run kde3's kdepim apps in kde4" consensus of
> > just a few months ago to result in kmail becoming a *showstopper* for
> > 4.0?
> Kmail is added to the list as it makes sure a basic set of libraries is
> correctly functioning. We can not release with broken kio, or broken
> certificate handling, identities broken, mailtransport lib not working and
> everything else kmail makes use of.

and the only way we have of testing those things is an entire application for 
which there may not be the develper resources for?

let's see:

- kio => how about just about every kde app out there?
- cert handling => khtml?
- identities => i assume you mean the address book? that one might be a bit 
more difficult, yes
- mailtransport => does this really matter if we don't have kde4 mail apps?

really it seems a bit back asswards to say "we need to ship this app to prove 
that the libs that it uses are ok" ;) 

there are also tests in some of these libs; mailtransport has a little gui app 
for testing as well. obviously automatically run unit tests would be great, 
but obviously we probably don't have the resources to whip up as many as we'd 
need. still ... it seems that we have other options than kmail here.

marking things all over the place as "showstoppers" may seem responsible from 
a release perspective, but .. yeah. kmail and kate as "showstoppers", given 
the purpose and scope of 4.0 as a release along with our goals (e.g. 
releasing in a reasonable time frame versus allowing ourselves to endlessly 
delay things), seem a bit odd to me. 

Aaron J. Seigo
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