Shipping a cursor theme with KDE
Albert Astals Cid
aacid at kde.org
Fri Dec 28 11:24:53 CET 2007
A Divendres 28 Desembre 2007, Riccardo Iaconelli va escriure:
> On Thursday 27 December 2007 14:43:23 Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > Since I got addressed personally I'll reply. Note that it'll be the last
> > mail from me, this topic just got too many mails already...
> >
> > Le jeudi 27 décembre 2007, Riccardo Iaconelli a écrit :
> > > ¹ Yes ervin, I know you had some problems some time ago with cursor
> > > themes that showed up some bugs, but please specify better. You only
> > > said that once you've seen some problem happen, with no more infos. If
> > > you say it like this it's like you haven't said anything. I'm using
> > > just two subtle animations in the whole theme, so I presume it won't be
> > > something more problematic than, for example, DMZ (default in many
> > > major distributions now).
> >
> > You completely missed the point, the thing is:
> > 1) Even what you call "pure artwork"[*] might trigger issues,
>
> What kind of issues? The only one I can eventually find is them becoming
> boring, or inappropriate for a long term use. And here I'm sorry but I'm
> not really willing to accept your judgment. Experts in this topic have
> evaluated and approved the theme, working in the whole process of defining
> something nice and appropriate for the long-term everyday use.
> If you have other issues in mind, please tell, this is really the only
> thing I can imagine. =)
>
> > 2) Then, it's really too close to the release because it didn't get
> > widespread testing.
>
> What would be the testing needed for cursors? The proof that they will work
> well also in one year? Then I already answered you just above.
>
> > [*] And you're having a very relaxed definition IMHO, cursor theme have a
> > special treatment and can ruin user experience.
>
> See above.
>
> Still, maybe it's me, but I don't really get your point.
> For what I understand, the practical reason for deadlines (apart for
> translations) is to avoid regression before a release, and be sure to have
> a consistent and finished product. So this is not the case, the complaint
> doesn't apply to this situation.
>
> Oh, and about the "sends the wrong signal to people" this is not true, at
> least from how I understant this theme. Because I do think that this is not
> really a new feature, or at least it's not at the same level of code:
> consequentially it's not (and it should never be) subject to the same kind
> of freeze and treatment than a new feature, say, in okular, would receive.
> This is just a new piece of art that cannot harm, just like a new icon
> committed in SVN is.
> And sorry for stressing a bit this metaphore, but this *is* actually the
> case!
Yes, but freeze is freeze, and applies equal to everything, art and code, we
are just allowing new icons because they are started but not finished and we
don't want to ship a half-done icon set.
In your case this is not started, so i do not really see a reason why it
should go in.
Wait for 4.1
Albert
>
> Hope this helps claryfing a bit more.
>
> Bye,
> -Riccardo
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