kdeutils maintainer? khexedit program unmaintained

Friedrich W. H. Kossebau kossebau at kde.org
Fri Dec 28 00:09:16 CET 2007


Hi,

sorry, could not push this discussion lately. So once again:

Am Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2007, um 00:23 Uhr, schrieb Friedrich W. H. Kossebau:
> Hi Allen,
>
> Am Montag, 3. Dezember 2007, um 23:11 Uhr, schrieb Allen Winter:
> > On Friday 30 November 2007 22:12:21 Allen Winter wrote:
> > > On Friday 30 November 2007 14:34:51 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > from
> > > > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Module_Status#Module_Statu
> > > >s I read there is no Release Maintainer for kdeutils. So who
> > > > decides/cares there? I guess this list, then.
> > >
> > > The Release Team, so I'll copy this over to our mailing list.
>
> Alright, am subscribed there, too.
>
> > > > With KHexEdit currently there is a tricky situation. Under
> > > > kdeutils/khexedit live two separate projects, the program KHexEdit
> > > > and the binary editor plugin (see the subdirs core, gui, parts),
> > > > project name Okteta*.  I personally only care for Okteta, but not for
> > > > the program (see footnote why).
> > > >
> > > > Right now KHexEdit is roughly ported and runs, but is not fully
> > > > functional (painting draws outside of PaintEvent, view tabs running
> > > > wild and crash the program, html/rtf export not working). So not
> > > > really in release state (yet). Two solutions:
> > > > 1. Exclude from release and hope for me getting Okteta ready for the
> > > > next one. 2. Search maintainer and fix KHexEdit.
> > > >
> > > > I favour #1 (one program to rule things, no conflicts ;) But I
> > > > understand those who like #2 more, just tell me what you think.
> > > > In case most like #2 more I would blog and mail a maintainer query to
> > > > Danny for inclusion in the digest.
> > > >
> > > > So?
> > > >
> > > > * Both projects share no code, as the plugin was written from
> > > > scratch. Instead of modifying KHexEdit to make use of the libs, I
> > > > decided to write a program also from scratch, using the libs. I am
> > > > only halfway done, see playground/utils/okteta. Bookmarks, Undo, and
> > > > embedded search dialog are still missing to match KHexEdit's
> > > > features, but else looks good.
> > > >
> > > > Friedrich
> > >
> > > If khexedit (the application) is truly terrible and unmaintained then
> > > we shouldn't release it.  We should remove khexedit from kdeutils and
> > > plan on Okteta for 4.1. In the meantime, Okteta should be developed in
> > > playground.
> > > IOW: I agree with option 1.
> > >
> > > This is the same plan we are following for KAider replacing KBabel.
>
> Did someone besides me try KHexEdit? I might be wrong with my impression
> and biased (well, the latter I am for sure ;).
>
> > So should I add a kdeutils table to the Module Status page
> > saying that khexedit will be removed for 4.0 and that
> > okteta will be new in 4.1??
> >
> > Freidrich: I assume you will be happy to do the khexedit move to
> > unmaintained/4?
>
> Not happy (heh, this is killing/removing a program which is around since
> 1999), but I would do.
>
> As the Okteta libs and KParts living in subdirs of KHexEdit (core/, gui/
> and parts/) are maintained, by me, I would keep them there, just moving the
> files in the toplevel dir (and pics) which belong to the KHexEdit program.
> The parts are implementing the modul interfaces from
> kdelibs/interfaces/khexedit/, which are used at least by KPilot and
> KDevelop (http://lxr.kde.org/ident?i=BytesEditInterface).
>
> I guess renaming kdeutils/khexedit/ to kdeutils/okteta after that would
> match the content left in there, but it would make too many people unhappy,
> that close to a release, right? Too sad.
> Moving to extragear, to follow the path of KAider, right now would be
> similar complicated...
>
> I would svn mv kdeutils/khexedit/*  -N (or similar) to where exactly?

Ah, you meant /tags/unmaintained/4/, now that I searched for it I found it.

So, did anyone else test KHexEdit and is there a decision that I should move 
the program?

Friedrich


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