[rekonq] quit vs. close

[Thomas Zander]

On Friday 19 August 2011 17.20.55 Andrea Diamantini wrote:
> You are probably not used a lot to read all bugs reported against rekonq.
> I  can just say that for people using a browser is a really common
> experience in every OS they use.
> And their experience is basically based on Firefox behavior. That's the
> road,  you can't do nothing about this.

I actually never wanted to say otherwise.  The firefox behavior is different in 
several ways. For example using 'close' closes the tabs just like in rekonq 
but when there is only one tab left firefox closes the window while rekonq 
doesn't.
The effect is that in firefox using 'quit' is much more rare. You don't need it 
for normal usage.
In rekonq closing the last tab can only be done using the quit action since 
close just closes the document, not the window.

> > Bottom line still is that rekonq is a KDE application, behaving similar
> > to other KDE applications makes a lot of sense.
> 
> Yes, it makes sense for me too. But this cannot be a "forced model",
> otherwise  it can be always applied against decisions like menubar,
> webkit/khtml, the development itself of rekonq...

Oh, I'm sorry if it came over like a political thing. The menubar being off in 
rekonq makes total sense and anybody arguing against that is missing the 
point.
The point of using the kde model of quit is not about a forced model, its 
about not causing damage to those that are used to it.

Consider that the person using ctrl-q in rekonq and he expects KDE behavior, 
but its firefox behavior he just lost a lot of work and data.
Consider the person using ctrl-q in rekonq that expects firefox behavior, but 
its using KDE behavior didn't loose anything, he just might be surprised that 
there is another window still open.

The consideration is that choosing the KDE behavior makes sense in both KDE 
and in Windows.  I don't know why you would bring up the webkit/khtml etc 
points. This is not about being similar for similar sake at all.
  
> > Anyway, I've done as much as I can in defending the usability side as I
> > see it, any decision you make is fine with me :)
> 
> Let me joke a bit, it seems you "pushed" your vision a bit too much ;)

Sorry if thats the case;  I just had a deja-vu with all the arguments you made 
about firefox and Windows having been considered before. You might find it 
interesting to read the archives of kde-look mailinglist where this has been 
discussed some years ago too ;)

I found a copy of the kde styleguide online, the topic we are repeating is on 
page 3.  http://www.amazedev.com/files/guidelines/kde3_styleguide.pdf
-- 
Thomas Zander