[rekonq] KDE shortcuts

[Ronny Scholz]

Am Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2009 10:51:27 schrieb Andrea Diamantini:
> On Sunday 25 October 2009 09:45:08 Ronny Scholz wrote:
> > I understand your opinions and sonetimes also use F11.
> >
> > But to keep consistency we shouldn't redefine shortcuts per default even
> > if they are the same.
> > It is about synchrony. If the user or the distribution changes the global
> > shortcut rekonq is not affected. Thats not good in my opinion. If the
> > user really wants F11 he/she may enable this via rekonqs shortcuts editor
> > (once it is working :D), but then he/she is responsible for breaking the
> > consistency. This is an important difference to me, because then the user
> > knows what is going on in the system and why.
> 
> I think you missed the point here. Who decides here is not "dontknowwhat"
> distribution, it's the KDE project. And there it has been decided for CTRL
>  + SHIFT + F shortcut.
> So all KDE applications should provide that shortcut.
Ok, if this is a KDE decision it is easier for us. Then there is one argument 
less for the synchrony idea.

> We added the F11 shortcut that comes from browser experience. That's all.
>  If an user add a "Global" shortcut (in this case, a KWin one) he has 3
>  shortcuts to start a feature.
> It's true he cannot see the "global" shortcut in rekonq shortcut settings.
>  But that's because that shortcut is not a rekonq settings. No way to show
>  it, also setting no app shortcuts.

If this is possible this discussion would be solved. But I cannot reproduce 
it. I've set Ctrl+# as global secondary shortcut for fullscreen (just to test 
it) but it does not work in rekonq. It seems like the global shortcuts are 
overwritten by the local ones, not extended.

> 
> > And for the backend thing: who cares about the backend when dealing with
> > shortcuts? This is a GUI thing and the GUI should hide the backend from
> > the user (besides, Kaffeine uses Phonon "backend"). But I don't want to
> > step deeply into this discussion. I just wanted to say that other
> > applications are also not considering the globals and we can do better.
> 
> Yes, sure. I was just saying that F shortcut comes from MPlayer setting and
>  it becomed a "default" one for video player, in the same way F11 becomes
>  the "default" one for browsers.
> I'm used to use F shortcut with players and F11 shortcut for browsers and I
> think all users will complain if one of these fails.
> 
That is true. And it is why I started this discussion about what solution is 
the best. If you all prefer the current behaviour we should keep it.