[Raptor-Menu] SOme ideas

[Siraj Razick]

Hi,
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:

> it's just what i want to prove, the power of raptor is not only in the
> nuno's menu style but in the power to change the menu definition , to
> make able to integrate menu style as a theme components too. in this
> way i think we will integrate a maximum in the background, and not
> attach the widjets to the ui.
>
Agreed!

>
> so the ui can be an xml definition file, with svg part and some script
> code to make it dynamic. I don't want a menu that stay to many in the
> old school way ..;  i meen the same for all.
>
> I want it themable..
>
Yeap .. that we should do for sure!

>
> You are true for the mouse move in a first time, but don't forget the
> wheel.
>
>
> Now i want to talk about the menu it self ... what need to do a good
> menu in 2008. So as it is the aim of raptor it need to be sharp, quick
> to use.
>
> but ... in the plasma path, i means it have the need to be beautifull,
> and usefull, it need to reduce the panel use, it need to be compleate.
>
>
> So we need at least 3 frame ... despite what say nuno.
>
> 1) favorites
> 2) A way to walk to the true menu tree (every body not remember the
> name of an app)
> 3) A way to quit kde
> 4) a search result
>
> Optional:
> 5) deal with strigi result
> 6) New app
> 7) My contact
>
>
> So ... this menu need to be an agregator too.
> All what i see here are lists. So our menu is just a tool that deal
> with lists, but with a way to calculate the usage of them.
>
> No why working only on the menu ... the button menu can have some
> improvement too... like a clock, so i can simplify my panel, some
> button that appear arount it to be able to select the raptor menu
> frame (favourite, etc) and store the lost usage so the menu while show
> the last used.
>
> it have not to replace everithing but by plugin, it will be able to
> show me on the need what i need. and quikly,
>
>
>
> There is 3 state for this menu as i can see :
>
> - On the panel
> - on the Desktop
> - Popup
>
>
> The way popup for me means ... you press META+Left Click and the menu
> appear under the mouse with the principal icon under the cursor.
>
> if the mouse is too near the screen border, the cursor is moved a bit
> automaticly, so i just have to wheel a bit !!!
>
> As every body now in 2008, i want all and every where. So fortunally
> we can't doing that in a day lol, but the database and the background
> (is it the comme subroutine ?) Must to be drawed for that. Too support
> all kind of list. and have a group field too ... it will be a good
> idea to sort icon in a groupe (internet, multimedia).
>
> But we need to think the more freely as possible.
>
>
> Now to little word to our pinheiro... Every body not calculate the 2
> sec access more to a menu. You are a great artist, so free your
> creativity, we need both a true professionnal thing as you have done
> .. for professionnal but i think we need fun things too ... in other
> case i can use the xfce menu too lol. Beautifull and usefull. I know
> that my mockup is not calculate i've used your formula ..; bad result.
> But anyway it's fun to imagine what can be a menu without having some
> wall all around my head. And unfortunally here in france, fond of
> linux are also fond of fun. And kde 4 is amazing and Fun ... and
> plasma truelly flexible.
>
> Siraj you want to learn me C++ and plasma libs ? i you want ..; it
> will take a wheel... but with pleasure lol.
>
haha.

>
> no i'm not a good C++ devellopper ... but i can make a try.
> nevertheless i'm known to be a hole of ideas.
>
> i need to see how plasma work. (hem and a little bit kde too lol)
>
> but i which to help you, depite the fact that i'm more a designer that
> a develloper and more a vinegrower in the true life.
>
Yeah these are all cool Ideas..


>
> Fabien
>
>
> Just for the history... i'm using kde since the 1.1 version.. and now
> ... the better is coming
>
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