<div dir="ltr">Hi, <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Fabien Bodard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://gambas.fr">gambas.fr</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
it's just what i want to prove, the power of raptor is not only in the<br>
nuno's menu style but in the power to change the menu definition , to<br>
make able to integrate menu style as a theme components too. in this<br>
way i think we will integrate a maximum in the background, and not<br>
attach the widjets to the ui.<br></blockquote><div>Agreed! </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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so the ui can be an xml definition file, with svg part and some script<br>
code to make it dynamic. I don't want a menu that stay to many in the<br>
old school way ..; i meen the same for all.<br>
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I want it themable..<br></blockquote><div>Yeap .. that we should do for sure! </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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You are true for the mouse move in a first time, but don't forget the wheel.<br>
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Now i want to talk about the menu it self ... what need to do a good<br>
menu in 2008. So as it is the aim of raptor it need to be sharp, quick<br>
to use.<br>
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but ... in the plasma path, i means it have the need to be beautifull,<br>
and usefull, it need to reduce the panel use, it need to be compleate.<br>
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So we need at least 3 frame ... despite what say nuno.<br>
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1) favorites<br>
2) A way to walk to the true menu tree (every body not remember the<br>
name of an app)<br>
3) A way to quit kde<br>
4) a search result<br>
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Optional:<br>
5) deal with strigi result<br>
6) New app<br>
7) My contact<br>
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So ... this menu need to be an agregator too.<br>
All what i see here are lists. So our menu is just a tool that deal<br>
with lists, but with a way to calculate the usage of them.<br>
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No why working only on the menu ... the button menu can have some<br>
improvement too... like a clock, so i can simplify my panel, some<br>
button that appear arount it to be able to select the raptor menu<br>
frame (favourite, etc) and store the lost usage so the menu while show<br>
the last used.<br>
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it have not to replace everithing but by plugin, it will be able to<br>
show me on the need what i need. and quikly,<br>
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There is 3 state for this menu as i can see :<br>
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- On the panel<br>
- on the Desktop<br>
- Popup<br>
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The way popup for me means ... you press META+Left Click and the menu<br>
appear under the mouse with the principal icon under the cursor.<br>
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if the mouse is too near the screen border, the cursor is moved a bit<br>
automaticly, so i just have to wheel a bit !!!<br>
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As every body now in 2008, i want all and every where. So fortunally<br>
we can't doing that in a day lol, but the database and the background<br>
(is it the comme subroutine ?) Must to be drawed for that. Too support<br>
all kind of list. and have a group field too ... it will be a good<br>
idea to sort icon in a groupe (internet, multimedia).<br>
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But we need to think the more freely as possible.<br>
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Now to little word to our pinheiro... Every body not calculate the 2<br>
sec access more to a menu. You are a great artist, so free your<br>
creativity, we need both a true professionnal thing as you have done<br>
.. for professionnal but i think we need fun things too ... in other<br>
case i can use the xfce menu too lol. Beautifull and usefull. I know<br>
that my mockup is not calculate i've used your formula ..; bad result.<br>
But anyway it's fun to imagine what can be a menu without having some<br>
wall all around my head. And unfortunally here in france, fond of<br>
linux are also fond of fun. And kde 4 is amazing and Fun ... and<br>
plasma truelly flexible.<br>
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Siraj you want to learn me C++ and plasma libs ? i you want ..; it<br>
will take a wheel... but with pleasure lol.<br></blockquote><div>haha. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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no i'm not a good C++ devellopper ... but i can make a try.<br>
nevertheless i'm known to be a hole of ideas.<br>
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i need to see how plasma work. (hem and a little bit kde too lol)<br>
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but i which to help you, depite the fact that i'm more a designer that<br>
a develloper and more a vinegrower in the true life.<br></blockquote><div>Yeah these are all cool Ideas.. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Fabien<br>
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Just for the history... i'm using kde since the 1.1 version.. and now<br>
... the better is coming<br>
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