Regarding the policy proposal

[Ben Cooksley]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 11:14 PM Kevin Ottens <ervin at kde.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>

Hi all,


>
> On Wednesday, 30 September 2026 09:43:59 Central European Summer Time
> Marco
> Martin wrote:
> > On Sunday, 27 September 2026 22.28.39 Central European Summer Time Thiago
> >
> > Masato Costa Sueto wrote:
> > > As to how to organize this "private sharing with core contributors", I
> was
> > > thinking of a temporary private repository with collaborator invites
> so we
> > > can make comments on individual parts more easily (since Gitlab lacks
> > > private MRs). I feel like the mailing list made the discussion very
> > > difficult to keep track of. We could also just do the Easy Way and
> make a
> > > confidential issue, but I was recommended against it, as the
> Confidential
> > > setting would still include all people with dev accounts.
> >
> > it *absolutely* should include everybody with a developer account.
> > It can't exclude active members of the community that then get a
> > policy dropped on top of them without them having a say.
> > If the debate needs to get heated, then let it be, they're
> > active contributor and need to have their voice heard.
>
> I'd be careful with this though. Heated debated for the sake of making
> everyone heard can also split communities.
>
> If we learned one thing from the process leading to the KDE Manifesto it's
> that starting with a well curated[1] small team first and getting those to
> tear each other apart behind closed doors greatly limits the blast radius
> and
> the cost in term of community health.
>
> Of course then you widen the circle progressively but it has more chances
> to
> have a more peaceful process. The stress level is totally different for
> everyone involved.
>

The above is why I proposed going with a small group to start with.

It would naturally have to eventually come to everyone for final
discussion, but if you start with a smaller group then it is much easier to
get something workable put together.
Then once it comes to the wider group it is already generally acceptable
and only minor tweaks really end up being required.

Heated debates are not healthy or constructive for any community to undergo.


>
> Regards.
>

Regards,
Ben


>
> [1]: By "well curated" here I mean you need to ensure that in this case
> the
> various "factions" are properly represented. At national level you want a
> large semi-random sample from the general population. In our case since
> some
> debate already happened I think we'd have a way to pick the right set of
> people by hand.
> --
> Kevin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net
>
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