plasma-framework, kactivities and kactivities-stats: please consider proper de-KF-ication now
Shantanu Tushar Jha
shantanu at kde.org
Mon Nov 6 06:58:46 GMT 2023
Hi,
+1 to what Carl said. Right now my Elisa barely needs any time to read my
music library, presumably because Baloo already has it indexed. It'll be
quite a shame if apps did their own indexing, wasting time and power.
The effects (of removing Baloo support) are even more pronounced if we
consider that a majority of Elisa users are running Plasma as well.
(Citation needed, I know, but IMO it's not such a risky assumption.)
Regards,
Shantanu
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023, 11:53 PM Carl Schwan <carl at carlschwan.eu> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:01:38 PM CET Nate Graham wrote:
> > On 11/5/23 07:42, Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > > I was clumsily advocating for this Akademy 2021 or 2022 (can't remember
> > > which).
> > >
> > > This way it's clearer to application authors when they tie themselves
> to a
> > > given workspace or not.
> > >
> > > Also, isn't Elisa able to work without Baloo? It even seems to do the
> > > right
> > > thing if I trust its CMakeLists.txt. It has Baloo as a recommended but
> > > optional dependency, and disable it altogether for Win32 builds.
> >
> > Yes, Elisa also includes an internal indexer, for use on Windows and
> > Android, or on *Nix when Baloo isn't installed or is disabled.
> >
> > I think the original idea for the app was to delegate all the indexing
> > heavy lifting to Baloo to avoid internal complication, but clearly this
> > has not worked out in practice, since to be truly cross-platform, it
> > can't assume that Baloo is present and active and does need its own
> > indexer. So maybe the best course of action is actually to remove Baloo
> > support entirely and always use the internal indexer, so that we don't
> > have two different code paths.
> >
> > Nate
>
> I do not belive this is a good idea. Mostly because it means we would then
> have an indexer in Baloo and one indexer in Elisa running at the same time
> and
> doing something similar which is wasteful. It becomes even more of an
> issue
> when other apps like Peruse or Arianna start doing the same and use their
> own
> indexer instead of Baloo on Plasma.
>
> This defeat the point of having a general purpose indexer in Plasma.
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
>
>
>
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