D12969: [Kicker] Only show "Add to Panel (Widget)" When there's no Task Manager

Eike Hein noreply at phabricator.kde.org
Tue May 22 15:08:22 UTC 2018


hein added a comment.


  > And personally I consider pinning to be activity dependant way more complicated than having both options to pin and have a launcher
  
  I'm also very unhappy with this hyper-complicated context menu. It made it in because everyone was getting impatient on this feature being merged after it took many cycles, but I said at the time I would like the context menu to be treated as placeholder and overhauled/simplified later. Particularly the UX of unpinning is so difficult with all these checkboxes.
  
  > Christian's patch allows pinned Task Manager icons to be always visible, yeah.
  
  But it also has a behavior change for running apps (which I am personally not a huge fan of because it complicates the system, but the argument that it could finally get apps out of the tray is somewhat compelling).
  
  > That's just a recipe for confusion, and it feels very expert-friendly, but not very average-user-friendly.
  
  In that case I would honestly argument for dropping Task Manager pinning entirely: I've never entirely liked that it complicates the Task Manager toward doing multiple things, and that makes it have to contend with having different-sized items, and that means launchers aren't just straight-forward panel items that can be moved anywhere (this gets a lot of user bug reports too btw).
  
  Except people want dock-like behavior for the launcher-to-window lifecycle.
  
  That's how we arrived at this duality.

REPOSITORY
  R119 Plasma Desktop

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  https://phabricator.kde.org/D12969

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