Review Request 124246: Improve sticky notes

Bart Schouten kde at xenhideout.nl
Tue Jul 7 14:38:54 UTC 2015


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Hi, I hope you don't mind my writing again.
I think the scope of the Notes (plasmoid) determines how good you want it to be. Do you want it to be "the" best solution for a KDE user?

How much time can you afford to develop it? It is not a standalone thing (like Evernote) (to mention the extreme, solution).

I have never used a notes app (sticky notes) so what would entice me to use it? I use a default editor for note writing. I use desktop paper square nonsticky notes for jotting down stuff. Personally, what would entice me to use a notes system is:
- saving (to text files likely)
- organizing (in simple categories)
- safety of the file format (noncorruptable, human readable (for recovery), easy to backup, freedom in choosing the save location (of the archive cq. collection))
- self-contained (just a single file for all the notes in the collection)
- basic formatting (italics, bold, underline, strikethrough) (superscript, subscript) (smaller/larger, the way forums do)
- file format that is either html or wikitext or rtf (non-essential)
- placement of individual notes as e.g. desktop embeds (widgets) or in popup widgets (icon pops up list you can choose from).
- basic operations part of the window (that contains the note)

I guess what most of it comes down to is sustainability. I want my data to persist as well as the locations where I show my data. E.g. for me ideal is a notes application that sits in the system tray.

Becomes rather full fledged of course. But sticky notes have no merit for me if I can't save them because the whole idea of writing something down is that it doesn't disappear. And if you can't organize it becomes rather pointless also. And without persistent data store (please no akonadi) organisation is pointless.

I guess /then/ it would have benefit over e.g. Notepad (to me). In the meantime I don't think it makes much sense to respond to your current issues but:..

* I don't think for a notes application font family should be configurable per note
* font size doesn't need a complete range, size names should be sufficient
* editing capability should be consistent with what you can do in a wiki or any rich text editor, depending on how capable your notes are in other areas.
* font colour doesn't seem to be so important to me as long as it's a good default.
* ideal for font colour would be a configuration dialog where you can select or choose a limited number of colours (say four) that you can then select on a per-note basis
* font size as relative to the enclosing note size seems a recipe for trouble as mentioned by others.

That's all I have to say! I hope it gives some new perspectives!.

- Bart Schouten


On jul 4, 2015, 11:43 a.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
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> Repository: kdeplasma-addons
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> Description
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> This patch adds the following improvements to the sticky notes applet:
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> - A config dialog with previews of the individual colors, the ability to change the font size, and font color - are there any other important options the 4.x one had?
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> - Ctrl+Mousewheel to change font size, I always used this "feature" in 4.x and was disappointed that it would not actually save the font size
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> - Focus the input field when expanding the applet (eg. when it is in a panel, click the note, start typing)
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> - Drag and drop support so you can now drag files and text snippets into the sticky note
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> - Better keyboard navigation: you can now place a sticky note in your panel, assign a shortcut to it, press it, note down your thoughts, and close the note again
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> Diffs
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>   applets/notes/package/contents/config/config.qml PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/notes/package/contents/config/main.xml 596dfc0 
>   applets/notes/package/contents/ui/configAppearance.qml PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/notes/package/contents/ui/main.qml 1f1022c 
>   applets/notes/plugin/documenthandler.h 41cf704 
>   applets/notes/plugin/documenthandler.cpp 79c276e 
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124246/diff/
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> Testing
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> Changing the font size from the config dialog and mousewheeling seems to work without screwing up your existing formatting.
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> Unfortunately the config dialog is quite difficult to get to since right clicking the text area yields the standard copy/paste menu and I failed to manually add another item for the applet config there
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> File Attachments
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> Config dialog
>   https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/07/04/1d244f32-79e6-435c-a906-1acddede0aa3__stickylove3.png
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> Thanks,
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> Kai Uwe Broulik
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