Notification bloat (4.xx)

[Mark Gaiser]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Christoph Feck <christoph at maxiom.de> wrote:
> On Friday 23 May 2014 22:58:21 Mark Gaiser wrote:
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Christoph Feck
> <christoph at maxiom.de> wrote:
>> > On Thursday 22 May 2014 20:23:00 Mark Gaiser wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> First of all, i have no solution for this. I've just observed an
>> >> issue with the notification system that might benefit of
>> >> improvements when we all brainstorm here about how it should
>> >> behave. This is for KDE 4.xx, but i'm guessing the actual
>> >> notifications are the same in plasma next. Please do correct me
>> >> if i'm wrong.
>> >>
>> >> Just a few minutes i noticed a few things when i was:
>> >> 1. downloading a few files using ktorrent
>> >> 2. copying a few files in dolphin from X to Y
>> >> 3. wireless network connection lost
>> >>
>> >> Point 3 is obviously a notification i want to see and know
>> >> about.
>> >>
>> >> But 1 and 2 are not notifications that i care about. I don't
>> >> even think they should be part of the "notifications" as they
>> >> are now. They should just be short lives messages to tell me
>> >> something and probably just disappear when they are not useful
>> >> anymore. I don't think they should be persistent and pile up in
>> >> the notification area as they do now.
>> >>
>> >> Slowly but steadily more applications start using the
>> >> notification area. Which is great, no doubt there! But the
>> >> amount of persistent notifications (that i need to click away
>> >> for the notification bubble to become clean again) is beginning
>> >> to be annoying.
>> >>
>> >> What's your opinion here?
>> >
>> > I have disabled "File transfers and jobs" in Notification
>> > Settings. The old style progress window only appears when
>> > operations are not completed immediately, and closes without any
>> > trace once they have finished (unless I request to keep it
>> > open). Plasma notifications for "progress" type notifications
>> > should also work this way.
>> >
>> > If you want more opinions, please also read the bugzilla entries
>> > for plasma/notifications. Users there generally agree that the
>> > current notifications are not without annoyances.
>> >
>> > Christoph Feck (kdepepo)
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>> Just out of curiosity, where did you find the option to disable
>> "File transfers and jobs"? I can't find it in system settings ->
>> "Application and System Notifications".. And i can't find another
>> place to change notification settings. I was expecting a right
>> mouse button on the notification bubble to give me a "Notification
>> Settings" but there is nothing like that.
>
> Right-click the Notifications icon in the system tray, there select
> "Notification Settings". Just in case, I am talking about Plasma 1 :)

That's what i thought as well, but when i right click it (and i really
right click the notification cricle!) then i get:
- System tray settings
- Panel options

So i can't change it from the tray! Why?

Another observation. When i add the notification just as plasmoid to
the desktop then i do have a "Notification Settings" when i right
click it.. Something very weird is going on in the tray!