Notes from "Async and representation"

Mark Gaiser markg85 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 18 14:18:56 UTC 2014


On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Martin Graesslin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
> On Saturday 18 January 2014 14:31:41 Mark Gaiser wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraesslin at kde.org>
> wrote:
>> > On Saturday 18 January 2014 01:11:54 Mark Gaiser wrote:
>> >> I guess my arguments for going with the "Plasmoid" name rather then
>> >> "Applet" are just ignored then?
>> >> Sebas did gave "some" (few lines) explanation before my bunch of
>> >> arguments. Yet i still think "Plasmoid" would suit it better.
>> >
>> > I think the name got mentioned in this thread: Applet was the name already
>> > used in the C++ world, see [1]. So for anyone doing porting from a C++
>> > applet to a QML applet, the name Applet will be more reasonable.
>> >
>> > Personally I think Applet is a way better name as it is more generic and
>> > people know what is meant with it, but Plasmoid is a domain specific name
>> > people have to know. In the same way I went for Switcher in KWin although
>> > our internal name is TabBox. The one is generic the other is domain
>> > specific (and yes my QML code was first TabBox, then I thought about it
>> > and renamed all of it). Of course Plasma already uses the name plasmoid
>> > in the API and honestly I think that this is a mistake in the API.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Martin
>>
>> But your case to go for Switcher rather then TabBox is logical. Or to
>> me it is :)
>> The name "KWin.Switcher" tells me what it's going to do so it's chosen
>> wisely.
>>
>> The name "Applet" doesn't tell me one thing. The name "Plasmoid" does.
>> Since plasmoids are those visible things on the plasma desktop, i'd
>> expect a plasmoid to be something visual on my desktop. Applet might
>> indeed be more generic, but it doesn't tell me if it will be visible
>> on the plasma desktop. Which it will most likely be! Thus i think
>> "Plasmoid" is the better name since the name alone will give you the
>> idea that it's something that will appear on the plasma desktop.
>>
>> Or am i completely wrong now?
>
> Take a step back and imagine you wouldn't know that these "thingies" are
> called Plasmoid. E.g. your a developer who wants to provide an "app" for
> Plasma Active. What would sound more logical to you? Applet or Plasmoid? I
> assume everybody can understand what an applet is supposed to be and knows
> them from other areas, too. But Plasmoid...

I am taking a step back and am coming up with the name "Plasmoid".
That is marketed to the outside world. Applet isn't.
With Applet i think of java applets.

Actually, if i really take a step FAR back i would call them "Widget".


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