QML Placces design discussion

[Mark]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 14:29:12 Mark wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 13 February 2013 13:50:08 Mark wrote:
>> >> That's the intention and that hasn't changed. Apparently most of you
>> >> seem to disagree here. Apparently i'm the only one that dislikes
>> >> having an empty space shown by default..
>> >
>> > to complement what Aurelien just wrote: you need to step aside from your
>> > own use case to properly discuss it. It makes you blind to see that there
>> > are many ways to get to what you need. So far you only focus on what you
>> > proposed to change.
>> >
>> > I looked to the problem not from your perspective but from the global
>> > view.
>> > Why is the pager implemented that way? Is that a valid use case? Is the
>> > use
>> > case correctly implemented or are there better ways to implement the use
>> > case? This lead for me to: let's remove the pager in the default setup.
>>
>> I know and i did that :)
>>
>> The current pager is perfect if you have one monitor or perhaps even
>> two since you can make a quite safe assumption that both monitors are
>> on thus having a pager with one VD makes no sense. So yes, i took that
>> step back and fully agree with how it's currently implemented based on
>> that step.
>>
>> However, modern day desktops can have more displays attached then 1 or
>> 2 and those displays don't have to be monitors. That's something to
>> also consider and i'm doing exactly that. I think the current pager
>> lacks that consideration.
> no it doesn't. See my very first answer to this thread. Your workflow is a
> workaround to limitations in multi screen handling. KWin should not put
> windows on a screen which is not useable (doesn't matter whether turned off or
> disconnected). It shouldn't put it there. Full stop! If it does put it there
> we need to fix it. This means your workaround as a workflow is irrelevant as
> we need to fix the bug, not ensure workarounds work.

Right, clear. Could you fix windows up as well? ;-)
Anyway, if you need any information regarding that, please just ask. I
have the setup at home and i can easily compile any patches you have
for me.