QML Placces design discussion

[Martin Gräßlin]

On Wednesday 13 February 2013 10:58:09 Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Aurélien Gâteau <agateau at kde.org> wrote:
> > Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit :
> >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich <sreich at kde.org> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> >> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense:
> >> >> * one vd by default
> >> >> * do not show pager for one vd
> >> >> * show pager if user uses more vds
> >> > 
> >> > i agree that showing the pager only for on vd is a bit weird. but the
> >> > issue
> >> > i'd like to address is that if you make the pager invisible and not
> >> > taking
> >> > up space, then when the user is browsing the widget explorer seeing
> >> > what
> >> > he
> >> > can add to the panel, he tries to add the pager widget, wondering what
> >> > that
> >> > does. but no feedback is given for adding it, and so they add it 10
> >> > more
> >> > times.
> >> > 
> >> > as mentioned in the rb, i've personally witnessed this happen, and this
> >> > seems to confuse people, because they have no idea they need to go into
> >> > system settings and set the virtual desktop to > 1. if it said so/told
> >> > them, i imagine that would be fine as well.
> >> > 
> >> >> Focus on technical implementation: I don't care much and cannot judge
> >> >> it,
> >> >> but
> >> >> my personal vote would be to just drop the pager from the default
> >> >> setup.
> >> > 
> >> > I agree on this, since I don't see virtual desktops being used by
> >> > people
> >> > other than power users. After all, we've got activities and we should
> >> > be
> >> > focusing/refining on that for the majority of our users.
> >> > 
> >> > i think that if we remove it from the default setup, we don't have to
> >> > worry
> >> > about hiding the pager contents in the 1 vd scenario at all.
> >> 
> >> Why are you folks discarding my usecase completely? Not even one
> >> comment on it. My usecase is very valid, i'm having it right now as i
> >> type this mail.
> > 
> > What Shaun and Martin suggest would actually fix your problem. If the
> > pager is not in the default setup, then there is no need to hide it when
> > only one vd is there, so you would be able to add the widget to your
> > panel and see your windows.
> 
> That would not fix it at all.
> It would still show up empty with just one VD if i choose to add it.
I think what Aurélien meant is that we could change the behavior of pager 
again once it is not part of the default setup

--
Martin Gräßlin
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